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Re: Game of the Year - Alabama vs Florida
« Reply #20 on: December 07, 2009, 04:26:19 pm »
The Texas - Nebraska and Saints - Redskins games of this past weekend exemplify the Greek tragedy characteristics that often times plays out in football games.

Nebraska had the game won after kicking the field goal if they just kept playing like they had the entire game and not committed any stupid self-defeating mistakes.

What do they do? First the kicker kicks the ball out of bounds with less than a minute left giving them possession at the 40. Even I know better and drill not to kick it out of bounds in that situation on Madden.  That's all a kicker has to be thinking in that situation - I have 53 yards of field from side to side. Just kick it down the middle. DO NOT KICK IT OUT OF BOUNDS! Boom, the Nebraska kicker kicks it out of bounds in what will likely be the most important kickoff of his career.

Next, a stupid horse collar tackle penalty gives Texas another free 15 yards. You cant tackle a player by grabbing the facemask or reaching into his shirt collar. They all know that but this guy decided that he was going to tackle the Texas player like that in front of everyone with only a few seconds left in the game anyways. Congratulations Nebraska, you just gave Texas 55% of the field position after scoring when they only need about 65% to win.

The last few seconds were surreal, I couldnt believe what I was seeing. The supposed best college player in the nation candidate nearly let the clock run out in what surely would have been the most boneheaded play in college sports since Chris Webber called time out in 1993. That was Texas doing it part to reciprocate a tragedy to Nebraska but it was not nearly enough to overcome the self-defeating blunders that Nebraska committed in the final minute of that game.

All that while a captive audience of Cincinnati, TCU and Boise St followers and their spirit was built up to a crescendo only to see it crushed with instant reply and 1 second on the clock. With that one second, Texas kicks a field and game over. They play Alabama for the national title and all the other more deserving undefeated teams who were dreaming about the chance to do the same will have to settle for dreaming of "what if" for the rest of their lives.

The Redskins - Saints game was along the same lines but not nearly as dramatic. All the Redskins had to do to ice the game and hand the probable Super Bowl champions its first loss of the season, was to kick a chip shot 23 yard field goal for a 10 point lead with less than two minutes left in the game. After suffering through a disappointing, horrible season, they outplayed the best team in the NFL for most of the game and had the chance to do what everyone thought was unimaginable - end the Saints prospects for an undefeated season.

What did they do after marching down field and setting up for a 23 yd field goal to ice the game with less than 2 mins left? They missed the fucking kick! Instead of a 10 point lead, it's still 7. The Saints take over on offense, Brees promptly finds Mecham wide open in the middle of the field and hits a 53 yard pass for a tying score with about a minute left to eventually send the game into overtime.

But wait, it's not over! The Skins actually win the coin toss in overtime and get the ball first. They can still march down the field against the porous Saints defense like they did in their previous drive and in most of the game and not allow the Saints offense to even see the ball if they can score in sudden death.

The Saints botch the kickoff (but not out of bounds). The Skins move the ball to midfield before a play where the ball appears to come out after the tackle and play are over. Officials rule it wasnt a fumble. Not having any replay challenges, the Saints coach calls time out to give the replay officials time to look at the replays and sure enough, instant replay shows that it's a fumble and Saints ball. Saints offense takes over, Brees methodically moves them to the 1 yard line and they kick a field goal. Game over. Saints still undefeated and the Redskins will likely fire their kicker and coaching staff within 30 days.

You can't write self inflicted tragedies like this any better.

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Re: Game of the Year - Alabama vs Florida
« Reply #21 on: December 07, 2009, 05:53:55 pm »

All that while a captive audience of Cincinnati, TCU and Boise St followers and their spirit was built up to a crescendo only to see it crushed with instant reply and 1 second on the clock. With that one second, Texas kicks a field and game over. They play Alabama for the national title and all the other more deserving undefeated teams who were dreaming about the chance to do the same will have to settle for dreaming of "what if" for the rest of their lives.



Not so, at least for us BSU fans. We needed Tx to win that game, cuz face it, that woulda meant Nebraska got a BCS bowl game, and obviously TX would have still gotten one, and that woulda left the Broncos out in the cold. Me? I'm jacked about playing TCU again...I'm betting it will be the best bowl game of them all, and will get 2nd ratings only to the National Championship.

Edit: BSU knows we're not the #1 team in the nation, we couldnt hang with Florida or Bama...but we'd like to make a solid case for being #3.

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Re: Game of the Year - Alabama vs Florida
« Reply #22 on: December 07, 2009, 06:23:50 pm »
Not so, at least for us BSU fans. We needed Tx to win that game, cuz face it, that woulda meant Nebraska got a BCS bowl game, and obviously TX would have still gotten one, and that woulda left the Broncos out in the cold.



Maybe, maybe not. It depends on the polls and whether the Fiesta Bowl would prefer to see two undefeated teams over a Texas team who was just shut down in game they were expected to win by 20 pts. Dan Wetzel said it best during the game - if it would have been Boise St playing like that instead of Texas, they would have dropped 10 spots in the polls. Instead, theyre playing for the title because their school name is TEXAS.

As it turned out, Cincinnati, who was also outplayed and outclassed for most of the game by an average quality Pittsburgh team in the Big East title game (at least they would be an average team in the SEC), came out of the weekend ranked #3 and would have played for the national title had Nebraska won. I seriously doubt that Texas would have been ranked ahead of any undefeated team after playing the way they did AND losing to Nebraska.

All that is just more fuel to the fire of how idiotic college football is about resisting a playoff and injecting the element of human subjectivity and bias into the process of deciding the best team. It's hard to fathom how far up their asses their heads are.

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Re: Game of the Year - Alabama vs Florida
« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2009, 07:18:14 pm »
I still say Texas had no business having 10 points going into that final drive.

They are gifted calls that change the complexion of the game.

Or in many cases no calls.

The ref's know (as do coaches and some players) crucial points in games.

It might not be the actual scoring play. But a Pass Interference call here, and overlooked one there, a no call block in the back on a Shipley return.. or a phantom holding while the oppsing team is driving... You get the point.

There is BIG BUSINESS at play here ..and it goes all the way to the Big12 office.

I have become Jaded ... It was nice to see Crabtree smash the estabishment with an incredible play. But that is what it takes almost exclusively to beat UT in the Big 12.

Without the "framing of the game" UT would be a better than common opponent, sure... But not 11+ wins a year. No way.


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Re: Game of the Year - Alabama vs Florida
« Reply #24 on: January 07, 2010, 02:20:31 pm »
Best line by a sportswriter I read all week - "This Bama team would be competitive in the NFC West."

Very true. I think they would take the Bucs, Lions and Rams without question. Maybe the Browns, Chiefs and Seahawks too on a bad day for them. The team is loaded with future #1 draft picks. It reminds me of the Hurricane teams of the 90's and early 00's.

Notwithstanding the Heisman Jinx, I like Bama in a blowout tonight. As long as they dont come out flat like they did last year against Utah, it will be over by halftime. They have too much to play for this year to come out flat.

Even if they do come out flat, they can still put two good quarters in and win going away. I see Colt McCoy (active career leader in interceptions thrown) throwing at least 2 picks to 2010 1st round pick Arenas and 2010 top 10 draft pick McClain; the patented Nick Saban cornerback blitz netting at least 2 key third down sacks and since Texas will go all out to stop Heisman Trophy winner Mark Ingram, I see future top 10 draft pick Julio Jones and future Heisman candidate Trent Richardson having big games. Oh, and their third running back - Roy Upchurch can be more explosive than either Richardson and Ingram but since he fumbles a lot, Saban will likely keep him on the bench.

At least for one game tonight, Gwion should be enjoying the SEC BCS dominance.   :lol:

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Re: Game of the Year - Alabama vs Florida
« Reply #25 on: January 07, 2010, 04:06:32 pm »
It's the Super Bowl of college football.

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Re: Game of the Year - Alabama vs Florida
« Reply #26 on: January 07, 2010, 06:14:07 pm »
Best line by a sportswriter I read all week - "This Bama team would be competitive in the NFC West."

Very true. I think they would take the Bucs, Lions and Rams without question. Maybe the Browns, Chiefs and Seahawks too on a bad day for them.


Most ludicrous thing I've ever seen written, BRA1N. There isnt a college team in the nation that could compete with any NFL franchise. I'm surprised you agree.

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Re: Game of the Year - Alabama vs Florida
« Reply #27 on: January 07, 2010, 07:34:03 pm »
Most ludicrous thing I've ever seen written, BRA1N. There isnt a college team in the nation that could compete with any NFL franchise. I'm surprised you agree.


That's a myth. Put it this way, how many Rams would start for the University of Alabama? Im not even sure that Steven Jackson would start over Mark Ingram. The Rams could only wish they had Julio Jones to throw the ball to and a shutdown corner like Javier Arenas who can also return punts and kicks.

For further support, I refer you to the old Chicago All Star Games. For many years up to the 70's, the Super Bowl and NFL champion use to play a team of college all-stars. This is the NFL champion we're talking about, not the worst team in the league, against a team of college all star players who never played as a team before.

The college boys pulled off the victory a number of times and the games were usually competitive. There's no doubt that if they can beat the Super Bowl or pre SB NFL champion, that they can smash the worst teams in the NFL.

Bama is loaded with first and second round NFL draft picks. Just like the Hurricanes were when they had Winslow, McGahee, Shockey, Clinton Portis, Andre Johnson, Bryant McKinnie, Jonathan Vilma, Ed Reed, Phillip Buchanon and Frank Gore. Not just NFL players but NFL Pro Bowl caliber players. The problem is that most of the country doesnt realize the talent level they really have until 5 years into their NFL career.




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Re: Game of the Year - Alabama vs Florida
« Reply #28 on: January 07, 2010, 10:19:21 pm »
Very nice half. Going about as expected even though obviously no one expected McCoy to be injured. So far Arenas has a pick and a sack on a corner blitz; Richardson has a long TD run and Julio Jones as a 20 yrd reception. Dareus is unblockable with one man and had a pick 6. I need McClain to get another pick.

Texas came out smoking on defense but they are starting to wear down. Only surprise is how well Ingram has been able to run the ball against the Texas defense and how well Texas is rushing the passer on throwing downs.

I hope Bama continues to pound the ball with Ingram and Richardson. A 200 yd rushing game is a big possibility. Texas has no chance with their second string QB and they cant run the ball against this defense. I hope McCoy can come back so he can feel more SEC defense heat.

Leader at halftime in 10 past championship bowl games is 10-0. Score at half is Alabama 24, Texas 6. Will Texas be able to get in the end zone?
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Re: Game of the Year - Alabama vs Florida
« Reply #29 on: January 07, 2010, 11:40:12 pm »
This last 6 minute period is going to be bloody interesting  :confused:

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Re: Game of the Year - Alabama vs Florida
« Reply #30 on: January 08, 2010, 12:33:48 am »
It got a little hairy there toward the end due to the ultra conservative play but as soon as Texas made it close, Bama lowered the boom. 

Arenas - 2 picks; Bama - 2 backs over 100 yds. Can't wait to see some of these guys in the NFL including Kindle from Texas who was a beast tonight. McClain should be the first LB taken in the draft and Kindle the second or third depending on the Gators' Brandon Spike's injury status.
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Re: Game of the Year - Alabama vs Florida
« Reply #31 on: January 08, 2010, 02:48:33 pm »
I was a bit disappointed. In a game like that, you want to see the best players of both teams slug it out till the end. We didnt get that, and will be left wondering "what if".

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Re: Game of the Year - Alabama vs Florida
« Reply #32 on: January 08, 2010, 04:27:29 pm »
I was disappointed for Colt as a person because of how much it meant to him but it is all part of the game. No one shed any tears or wondered "what if" after Sam Bradford and Tim Tebow both got knocked out of games this season.

I really would have loved to have seen Texas, Florida and Boise St play earlier to find out who real #2 team in the country was this year. There's no doubt that Alabama was the best and I don't have much of a doubt that Florida was #2.

The SEC wasnt as strong top to bottom this year as in the recent past but at the top, there's no one else to challenge them. Four national titles in row by 3 different schools is mind boggling. There are 107 other college teams apart from the 12 SEC teams and none have been able to defeat the top SEC team in a six BCS championship game. That's like the NFC East going 6-0 in Super Bowls. Well not exactly but it parallels to that.

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Re: Game of the Year - Alabama vs Florida
« Reply #33 on: January 08, 2010, 09:42:01 pm »
I was a bit disappointed. In a game like that, you want to see the best players of both teams slug it out till the end. We didnt get that, and will be left wondering "what if".



It instantly lost its shine for me as well when McCoy went off especially when there was no miracle off the bench freshman performance even though the kid had his moments...all you were left with was the odd choice moment...that touchdown by Dareus was fucking impressive...a 300lb unit like that with that kind of athleticism and agility is something that you could only ever see in American football.

That Ingram lad is pure fucking class...kinda reminds me of John Riggins for some fucked up reason, Riggins and Daryl Green gave me my love for the game, Green mostly, that lad was poetry with a bitchslap.

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Re: Game of the Year - Alabama vs Florida
« Reply #34 on: January 08, 2010, 10:31:50 pm »
Not only was Green a great cornerback, but quite possibly the fastest NFL player EVER as well. The guy actually beat future gold medalists Carl Lewis in the 100 meters in college as well as Ron Brown and won the NFL Fastest Man title several times while he was playing. They actually had an event of races involving NFL players for the title of Fastest Man in the NFL and he smoked everyone he went up against.

It's rumored that he ran a sub 4.10 40 which to give you an idea of how fast that is even for today - Chris Johnson's best time at the rookie combine was a 4.24 and Deion Sanders (who supposedly holds the combine record before there was electronic timing) was something like a 4.17. The guy was lightning in a bottle.
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Re: Game of the Year - Alabama vs Florida
« Reply #35 on: January 08, 2010, 11:04:50 pm »
...his timing was unreal as well...thats an art to not pull pass interference at that speed

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« Reply #36 on: January 08, 2010, 11:24:31 pm »
Here's a great bio on Darrel Green from NFL Network. It shows him smoking Olympic Gold Medalist and former world record holder in the 100m relays, Willie Gault in the Fastest Man contest as well the legendary highlights of when he caught Tony Dorsett and Eric Dickerson from behind. Truly an all time great. Glad you mentioned him, Ratty.


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