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Re: When animals retaliate...
« Reply #20 on: March 08, 2010, 04:49:28 am »
I love the way people don't even get that this 'trainer' is attempting to communicate with a whale in the whales element.

Unsurprisingly the whale begins to see the trainer as a pod member and the result is an inevitable assertion of pod dominance. When will people learn that people might be animals but animals are not people?



Exactly...

if he is as old as the others say he is....(I was under the assumption he was only 10 yrs old) and they do not plan on using him again....he should be put down...

when the vets in Western Australia said initially to put the Atlantis dolphins down, there was a huge public outcry....the Japanese who owned the place opted for this rehibilition program costing them 3 million dollars and the result was a failure as I have already written..

Someone needs to tell the American's to quit exploiting large wild animals and humans like this...its time for yanks to grow up,...

bottom line is, he killed 3 humans......obviously they cannot keep him in a humane enclosure to live out the rest of his life...

he is too expensive to keep in solitary confinement and the creature doesn't deserve a tortured retirement...

put him down,.... that is the only humane solution..

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Re: When animals retaliate...
« Reply #21 on: March 08, 2010, 05:06:05 am »
I need no advice about chickens my dear,....I have bought pullets, battery hens, raise chickens from a day old with light globes and used bantams to raise babies and they cannot live without a mother be that human or chicken of adopted bantam mothers...or chickens themselves for over 30 yrs...lol

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Re: When animals retaliate...
« Reply #22 on: March 08, 2010, 05:07:12 am »
I was also a breeder of Rhodesian Ridgbacks dogs for many years..

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Re: When animals retaliate...
« Reply #23 on: March 08, 2010, 05:56:43 am »
I think i saw the pope walking one of those through the Vatican the other day  :orly:

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Re: When animals retaliate...
« Reply #24 on: March 08, 2010, 07:28:42 am »
I think i saw the pope walking one of those through the Vatican the other day  :orly:



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Re: When animals retaliate...
« Reply #25 on: March 08, 2010, 07:41:16 am »
If the whale had snapped it would have simply bitten her in half.


Very true. In my post, I wasn't thinking of the killer whale incident..more like the incident where a man/trainer walked into a bear's habitat, the bear got too close, so the man whacked it on the nose with a big stick/rod thing...the bear showed the man how much it didn't appreciate being smacked in the face.

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Re: When animals retaliate...
« Reply #26 on: March 08, 2010, 09:39:43 am »

if he is as old as the others say he is....(I was under the assumption he was only 10 yrs old) and they do not plan on using him again....he should be put down...



http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2010/02/24/2010-02-24_killer_whale_kills_trainer_at_orlandos_sea_world.html 


Here's one of umpteen articles that list the animal's age at 30..google the orca's name..Tilikum. Try researching things, instead of assuming things.


Someone needs to tell the American's to quit exploiting large wild animals and humans like this...its time for yanks to grow up,..



Do you have something against Americans? You seem make alot of generalized  negative statements regarding this country...and yet again, you are proven to have your head up your ignorant ass, due to lack of research. (and in your own statement, you state that we need to stop exploiting large wild animals...implying that it is acceptable to exploit smaller ones?)

Let me explain:

America isn't the only country guilty of exploitation...

Japan has captive Orcas.
Loro Parque, a park in Spain, has captive orcas.
Argentina had captive orcas (unsure if they still do).
France has captive orcas

OH WAIT!!! Your beloved Australia has Sea World...a marine water park that exploits dolphins, seals, sharks...while they don't have any captive killer whales, they still  exploit dolphins (in the Imagine show), sea lions in the "Fish Detectives" show...just because these animals are smaller in size, that does not, in ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM diminish Australia's guilt in their exploitation. Perhaps OZ needs a little dose of that 'grow up' medicine you so readily dole out to the Americans.

Now, do I believe that ANY of these parks  have the right to exploit any of these animals, regardless of size? No. Do I think America is less guilty or more guilty than any of the other countries that have captive marine life? No. Do I believe that ALL countries need to stop exploiting dolphins, whales, etc..? YES. Do I believe that these parks do some good, in their documented rehab and release efforts? yes. Do the park ticket costs go towards these rehab/release efforts? Probably. Is it a catch 22? more than likely, yes.

put him down,.... that is the only humane solution..



And just why should he be put down? Because humans made a piss-poor decision to put a wild animal in captivity and treat it like a pet?

How about they build a sea-pen, put him in it, and let him live out his remaining years in some sort of peace? There are other solutions besides killing him.

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Re: When animals retaliate...
« Reply #27 on: March 08, 2010, 11:30:47 pm »
I am shocked people think the whale should be put down. That's so absurd to me. Put a wild animal down who was held in captivity and it fought back a few times? Don't get in the water with it. It's not that difficult of a situation imo. It's not like it's a rat who bit or a dog who attacked a toddler.

Maybe some would think it's just as cruel to put down a dog but I think a friggin killer whale is a whole different situation.

What do you think about that? Animals being put down for attacking humans? Is it the animal's fault? Why is killing the whale different?

I think it's different because to get in a tank with a whale is a less likely scenario than walking past someone's house and an agressive dog digs out of his yard and bites a kid walking home from school. Two different things. I also believe there are far more dogs than killer whales in the world.

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Re: When animals retaliate...
« Reply #28 on: March 10, 2010, 07:20:44 am »
And I am totally shocked that you people think solitary confinement for the rest of his miserable life is more acceptable than death...

You're probably the sort of people who disagree with voluntary euthanasia...

none of you have to stand around watching the suffering personally though, do you?

Why don't you start thinking outside your boxes?

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Re: When animals retaliate...
« Reply #29 on: March 10, 2010, 11:37:46 pm »
There was the whole "free willy" campaign - on the news, a former trainer from Sea World was talking about how the trainer wasn't following procedure implemented when he first received the whale. The whale was known for killing humans and they had originally accepted him because other parks/aquariums didn't want him because he couldn't be trained. He also went on to say that the whale from Free Willy died too soon after being "reintroduced" into the wild. A story here http://www.seattlepi.com/local/152384_keiko13.html

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Re: When animals retaliate...
« Reply #30 on: March 11, 2010, 05:18:22 am »

I think there are also times when trained 'wild' animals just snap, and think 'enough of this shit' and attack. I think sometimes it is about 'leader of the pack', but sometimes I think they just get sick and tired of it all. Humans underestimate the intelligence of these creatures.




Couldn't agree more....

Our stupidity, ignorance or greed for the almighty $$ is the almost always the root cause of just about every animal attack and I say a big horrah to the creature when it finally gets its revenge...


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Re: When animals retaliate...
« Reply #31 on: March 11, 2010, 12:02:29 pm »
I think i saw the pope walking one of those through the Vatican the other day  :orly:

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