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Re: What's cracking folks
« Reply #40 on: March 10, 2010, 07:28:18 pm »
That's cool.

I don't know much about this Bra1n guy cept for the stuff involving some fucktards deleting thousands of posts at the now defunct flamechamps and the fact that he had problems restoring them.



LOL, let me guess - you heard references about that from "ladr" or some other random sycophantic Bawl Haller, right? It's funny to me how people still talk about that and not the flaming carnage which shattered Iron Duke's ego to the point of his unprecedented meltdown where after 10 years of being (board owner) Rudedog's #1 mod and right hand man (even before me), he decided to turn his account over to others so that they could delete posts and fuck over his board.

Keep in mind that Rudedog never said a bad thing to him like i did and stood up for him when I told him months earlier that he should be removed as mod because he was not trustworthy anymore. Not to excessively pat myself on the back or anything but I set out to flame him out of there and everything I said about him was proven right. I couldnt have written a better script.

THAT's the real story behind that episode. Not the 70,000 deleted posts which neither of us lost any sleep over. If either of us cared that much, we could have just paid $20 or whatever it was and gotten a backup of 12 hours ago from the point of when the deletions started from the host. It's not like any of that deleted shit were mathematical equations for proving entropy at the singularity of a black hole. To the contrary, it was mostly mindless drivel from the likes of Temple and Twap.

But yeah, thats part of the reason why flame forums jumped the shark from back then and I lost interest. Too many crushed egos and no talent lamers react to a game which is suppose to be played with typed text and funny images not by replying in kind but by DOSing, hacking and spamming forums, spilling PI details of their tormentors and by deleting posts and threads. Not surprisingly, most of those types of people seemed to be regulars of one forum in particular.


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Re: What's cracking folks
« Reply #41 on: March 10, 2010, 07:43:33 pm »
Not surprisingly, most of those types of people seemed to be regulars of one forum in particular.






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Re: What's cracking folks
« Reply #42 on: March 10, 2010, 09:48:02 pm »

But yeah, thats part of the reason why flame forums jumped the shark from back then and I lost interest. Too many crushed egos and no talent lamers react to a game which is suppose to be played with typed text and funny images not be replying in kind but by DOSing, hacking and spamming forums, spilling PI details of their tormentors and by deleting posts and threads. Not surprisingly, most of those types of people seemed to be regulars of one forum in particular.

Truer words have never been spoken. I tip my hat to you sir and salute your integrity to fighting the fight fairly. And yes, it is a shame when one opponent of what should be a harmless textual exchange designed to do nothing more than test wit, on what is in reality an obscure message board, get's so butt hurt that they feel the need to up the ante in one form or another. Dropping PI, Dosing and panel abuse are not flaming nor trolling, but only the hallmark of a truly pwned bitch.

This Iron Duke person, he's that gay Englishmen with the shitty chip on his shoulder, correct? 

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Re: What's cracking folks
« Reply #43 on: March 10, 2010, 11:03:03 pm »

This Iron Duke person, he's that gay Englishmen with the shitty chip on his shoulder, correct?


 :lol:

I dont know. AW aka, Tyrant swears to me she can tell he is gay and his temper tantrum at FC was akin to one that a flaming faggot would have after standing in line for 6 hours only to find out that there are no more Elton John concert tickets.

Doesnt matter to me if he is or not either way or if has a chip on his shoulder bigger than his prized bronzed dildo. All that stuff that happened is water under the bridge as far as Im concerned and if he wants to post here, he is welcomed to along with his shitty chip and all.
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Re: What's cracking folks
« Reply #44 on: March 10, 2010, 11:17:19 pm »
=== But yeah, thats part of the reason why flame forums jumped the shark from back then and I lost interest. Too many crushed egos and no talent lamers react to a game which is suppose to be played with typed text and funny images not by replying in kind but by DOSing, hacking and spamming forums, spilling PI details of their tormentors and by deleting posts and threads. Not surprisingly, most of those types of people seemed to be regulars of one forum in particular.


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Re: What's cracking folks
« Reply #45 on: March 11, 2010, 08:25:03 am »
But yeah, thats part of the reason why flame forums jumped the shark from back then and I lost interest. Too many crushed egos and no talent lamers react to a game which is suppose to be played with typed text and funny images not by replying in kind but by DOSing, hacking and spamming forums, spilling PI details of their tormentors and by deleting posts and threads. Not surprisingly, most of those types of people seemed to be regulars of one forum in particular.


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Re: What's cracking folks
« Reply #46 on: March 11, 2010, 10:05:03 am »
LOL, let me guess - you heard references about that from "ladr" or some other random sycophantic Bawl Haller, right? It's funny to me how people still talk about that and not the flaming carnage which shattered Iron Duke's ego to the point of his unprecedented meltdown where after 10 years of being (board owner) Rudedog's #1 mod and right hand man (even before me), he decided to turn his account over to others so that they could delete posts and fuck over his board.



It never got the acknowledgement that it deserved at the time...not because it wasnt one of the most perfect examples of someone being flamed into a meltdown...but because people were genuinely in shock.

I can read a lot of fuckers like a book..he would have had that sick as fuck feeling in his gut that you felt only as a kid...when you know you've truly fucked up and wish for that magical non existent rewind button.

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Re: What's cracking folks
« Reply #47 on: March 11, 2010, 10:35:25 am »
Does anyone have a link to the "flaming carnage" Iron Duke experienced at Bra1n's hands?

I'm sure that would be much more of an interesting read than some of the shitty "flame matches" (and I use that term very loosely) I'm perusing at CO.

I'm bored and work is slow so thanks in advance to anyone that does take the time to dig it up.

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Re: What's cracking folks
« Reply #48 on: March 11, 2010, 11:01:02 am »
Does anyone have a link to the "flaming carnage" Iron Duke experienced at Bra1n's hands?

I'm sure that would be much more of an interesting read than some of the shitty "flame matches" (and I use that term very loosely) I'm perusing at CO.

I'm bored and work is slow so thanks in advance to anyone that does take the time to dig it up.

Didn't Duke delete the carnage?  :uhuh:
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Re: What's cracking folks
« Reply #49 on: March 11, 2010, 11:25:38 am »
Didn't Duke delete the carnage?  :uhuh:

I dunno... could be since, according to rumor, thousands upon thousands of posts were deleted.


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Re: What's cracking folks
« Reply #50 on: March 11, 2010, 11:30:41 am »
That's what I heard, so I'm assuming there's no links. I could be wrong, though.
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Re: What's cracking folks
« Reply #51 on: March 11, 2010, 11:31:51 am »
Damn.. I bet it would have been an interesting read

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Re: What's cracking folks
« Reply #52 on: March 11, 2010, 04:03:02 pm »
Damn.. I bet it would have been an interesting read



Brian just relentlessly pounded his ass  :bananasex:

It was a fuckload to read but the Saga Strangler could smell blood and there was no stopping him



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Re: What's cracking folks
« Reply #53 on: March 11, 2010, 05:04:55 pm »

Brian just relentlessly pounded his ass  :bananasex:

It was a fuckload to read but the Saga Strangler could smell blood and there was no stopping him



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Must have been pretty epic to make Duke pull a bitch move like damaging the content of the site he was a trusted mod on.


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Re: What's cracking folks
« Reply #54 on: March 12, 2010, 06:05:50 am »
Must have been pretty epic to make Duke pull a bitch move like damaging the content of the site he was a trusted mod on.



It kinda wasnt..well it was kinda  :confused:

Its hard to explain...a pretty hardcore battering was being dished out but I'd seen way worse...the thing is I'd not bothered to read a few prior flame wars cos I just didnt have the time to keep up but that particular one caught my eye because you just knew that something or someone was going to blow  :wheelchair:

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Re: What's cracking folks
« Reply #55 on: March 12, 2010, 09:36:49 am »
Didn't Duke delete the carnage?  :uhuh:



Yep, no surprise it was all deleted. Probably wasnt Duke though as I previously explained here.

Here's Rudedog's post on the night of the deletions..





The thing with him and me started way back and slowly percolated until the point of the deletions. Here's the long story because Ive never told it and some new faces who werent around back then are curious about it. The untold story...

It goes back to a time when we were DOS'ed off the internet for about a month by BHers and those associated with that forum. The was the worst period ever for FC. The host that Rudey had sucked and every time we tried to come back online, we would get DOS'ed off again. At the time, I didnt know a thing about databases, being an admin and mitigating DOS attacks. Rudey didnt know that much either. I had to learn all the shit on the fly.

We spent countless of hours, day after day converting the forum from phpBB to SMF, moving servers, creating a new forum, managing a blog to keep people updated, creating a temp forum for our restless members who were wondering if FC was ever going to come back and trying to stop the DOS attacks without any help from the shitty host. All this in between both of our very busy work schedules.

Twap, Cardie, Humble Brain, Brimstone, IYE, Shadow and just about every other reg at the time was supportive and helpful in varying degrees when we moved to a temp forum. The only one MIA who didnt lift a finger either to help with a single task or offer some support was the Senior Global Moderator Iron Duke. The one besides Twap who we needed the most.

It sure would have been nice had he been there during the FC darkest days to help keep the sinking ship afloat but he had other ideas and was miles away by himself in a life boat. Personally, I think he was butthurt that Rudey choose me to be an admin over him (and he was there at FC much longer than me) but that's just my opinion.

From my point of view, things only got worse with him. Not only did he not even LOGIN to FC for 9 months after we finally came back online better than ever, he was living it up every day with the very people responsible for DOSing us who were laughing at our hardships and spreading lies about us as usual.

Thats when I started talking to Rudedog about removing Duke. In all my years at FC and dealing with Rudey, that was the only time we did not agree on something related to the forum. It was his board and i never lost focus of my place in it there so i respected his decision and didnt it press it other than to bring it up again in a PM a second time months later.

Cut to 9 months after the DOS attacks with me as admin of FC and FC is at the peak of its popularity. It was getting more traffic than it ever had and than any other flame forum including Duke's hangout for the past 9 months so one day, he decided to show up back to FC to bask in its newly created popularity like nothing had happened.

I immediately pounced on him after his first post in the reg room about his lack of service and trying to worm his way back into the good graces because suddenly this was the place to be. From there our feud spilled over to the main forum and ballooned for a couple of months.

I decided that I was going to keep riding him hard because I suspected he was close to the breaking point based on the tone of his posts which were never like that before. It wasnt like it was one single thread where i came down on him; it was every chance I got to flame him over a 2 to 3 month period which drove him over the edge.

The last episode which sent him reeling was when Havok supposedly posted his telephone number in the main forum. I got there two days after this happened to find Duke going bonkers (to use a cardie term) in the mod room flaming Twap, AW, VC and the other mods for not removing his info.

So of course i immediately jumped right in and lead the charge against his feined anger and hypocrisy by pointing out that he was a fucking global mod, he knew what his telephone number was and the rest of us didnt, he could have removed his own PI at any time between when he first saw it and after a quite a few flame posts in the mod room about it. He choose to flame other mods instead of removing his own phone number. It wasnt long after that when he tapped out by giving his mod account away which then lead to the deletions.

Before Rudey made me an admin and the DOS attacks happened, he was always cool with me. All the flaming we did to each other was in fun and we never had any type of serious personal issue between us. I have to agree with deB and think that deep down, he has to regret how he completely lost the plot and fucked over Rudey and the board he helped to establish for so many years.

Maybe he thought Rudey was a pushover and would forgive him like Doomsday did to everyone of his mods who has fucked him over again and again but Rudey dont play that game and neither do I.

In any case, that is the long retrospective about the lead up to the 70,000 deleted posts. Of course, the deleted posts are the save face topic of conversation that you ever hear from Bawl hallers and him instead of the epic ownage which caused it.

I felt a complete sense of vindication after that happened because everything I said about him to Rudey and everyone else was proven correct by his own actions and it was all a reaction to my typed words on the screen. His response to me flaming him on a flame board was to give his mod account up so that others could delete all traces of it. Thus, i dont hate him or anything like some people think. How can I hate him when I owned him so thoroughly and completely?  :lol:

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Re: What's cracking folks
« Reply #56 on: March 12, 2010, 10:00:31 am »
Interesting story. One that seems like an authentic accounting of what really took place.

So, is FC ever coming back? Is flametown really dead?

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Re: What's cracking folks
« Reply #57 on: March 12, 2010, 10:34:30 am »
You're a legend Bra1n....don't let anyone tell you otherwise..

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Re: What's cracking folks
« Reply #58 on: March 12, 2010, 11:33:57 am »
Interesting story. One that seems like an authentic accounting of what really took place.

So, is FC ever coming back? Is flametown really dead?



Im not one to posture for people or lie to save face like so many others in flame forums do. If someone would direct Twap to my account of the events, Im sure he could verify it and correct anything which i misstated. He was there through all of it as was VC aka PrincessofPt.

AW aka Tyrant was also there through most it too including the mod room tantrums. I hear from everybody that Twap thinks i hate him (because I use to flame him pretty bad too) and he doesnt post here regularly so he'd have no reason not to call me on anything which is misstated.

Even to this day, people still talk about the post deletions as some kind of triumph for Dukey instead of what it really was (an epic meltdown) and they dont make a single mention of anything that happened which lead to it- THOSE are the posturing asswipes that you should be wary of and take anything they say with a grain of salt.

Will FC ever be back? If i were to talk to Rudey and ask him hey, what do you think if we bring back a new and improved FC for another run after this rest, would he seriously consider it? I have to think that maybe he would. Will that ever happen? It is unlikely.

I do think that flametown is dead or the very best, it is on dire life support. Anyone with any sense can see that. Almost all the talent from the golden years has dried up.

What you have left is mostly a collection of haters spewing PI and unfunny, unoriginal, uncreative hostility at others. How many people are going to be attracted to that type of one-on-one crap everyday? Not many. People use to be attracted in droves to the humor and wit of posters like Buzzsaw, SummerofGeorge and BaileyHankins but theyre all gone except for Cardie and a couple of others who are top caliber.

The next time i get a chance to speak with Rudey, I will ask him about possibly hosting FC as an archive board so that people can read past threads. There are lots of great, funny matches and threads in the Hall of Fame which some people might enjoy revisiting. Some which can be seen right here:

http://web.archive.org/web/20071012041507/www.flamechampsnetwork.com/forum/index.php?board=20.0






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Re: What's cracking folks
« Reply #59 on: March 12, 2010, 11:37:50 am »
Allways had Ironhoof pegged as a flake, i think all did a f4$ as well because he couldn't hang for any significant period.
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