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The Letterman Blackmail: Enter the Dragon
« on: October 02, 2009, 04:11:57 pm »
Right, so we all know that some CBS "48 Hours" producer has been indicted on charges of trying to extort 2 million dollars from TV's David Letterman. I saw the Late Show last night, and sat there mesmerized by Dave's recounting of the events that led up to today's headlines.

Now, today, I just saw that the blackmailer is being represented by Gerald Shargel.

You non-New Yorkers, go do a wiki search on this guy. I'm sure Bra1n knows of him. He's a super-expensive scorched-earth defense lawyer who is known for repping John Gotti and his son. He even represented New York's Jimmy Coonan, the murdering Westie gang member who cut off his victims' hands and kept them in a fridge so he could use their fingerprints on guns.   

The Letterman blackmailer defendant, Robert Halderman, seems to need money, so I don't know what the deal is as far as how he'll pay Shargel. If Shargel waived the fee, there must be some pretty juicy reasons for him to take this case. Halderman pleaded Not Guilty earlier today, which was a surprise, as it seemed they caught him pretty good, with all sorts of proof including tape-recordings and such. I know nothing about legal strategies, but it seems to me that Shargel and his client are banking on Dave not wanting details of the office romances to emerge.

Bra1n, your thoughts on this? You know who Gerald Shargel is. Don't you think this just got a whole lot more interesting with Mr. Shargel entering the picture?

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Re: The Letterman Blackmail: Enter the Dragon
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2009, 04:47:02 pm »
Right, so we all know that some CBS "48 Hours" producer has been indicted on charges of trying to extort 2 million dollars from TV's David Letterman.


Nope, didn't have a Scooby until you mentioned it. Is it something i should care about and spend time investigating? I'll get the mystery machine and kick Daphne out of bed. He won't get away with it now it's down to us meddling kids!  :snack:

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Re: The Letterman Blackmail: Enter the Dragon
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2009, 05:04:36 pm »
It's headline news here in the United States of America, my country.

Look at google news for the US. You'll see it.

Aside from the legal and personal elements, this is going to be a ratings bonanza for Dave. Conan better rustle up a scandal, or he'll be dead in the water.

It's funny... neither of them or Leno are the type you'd look at (if you were female) and think, "Oh yeah, I'd do that." I like Dave a lot, but he doesn't have that come-hither twinkle. Carson had it.

Carson dated and married very delicate pretty women. Dave's type seems to be big-mouth sturdy brunettes, the type who can shout down hecklers in a comedy club, then get on the phone and berate the mobbed-up linen supplier for overcharging.


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Re: The Letterman Blackmail: Enter the Dragon
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2009, 05:10:51 pm »
Waaaait a minute. You have a Daphne at home?

The name Daphne evokes a languid pretty blonde woman, somewhat high-maintenance, yet surprisingly headstrong. Not into sports, doesn't smoke, but you kind of wish she did 'cause she'd look very elegant doing it, and it would piss off your mother.

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Re: The Letterman Blackmail: Enter the Dragon
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2009, 05:54:42 pm »
oops, sorry Scoundrel. Bad habit, that flaming. 


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« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2009, 06:02:21 pm »
Terribly bad show me dear. I was given to expect better from you.  :snack:

To be honest i was more noticing the reference to Johnny Carson who, although being a resident of the Eastern side of the pond i'm well aware is very much an older gentleman and would therefore only catch the eye of, how should we say?, the more mature lady. I always had you down as a thrusting young whippersnapper and not really the silver surfer, golden girl type?  :wink:

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Re: The Letterman Blackmail: Enter the Dragon
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2009, 06:17:25 pm »
I know who Gerald Shargel is but Im not that familiar with his style. As far as NY lawyers, Im much more familiar with Bruce Cutler and Ron Kuby.  :lol:

I have a theory about most of these high profile lawyers (not necessarily the ones above) who defend obviously guilty clients on a pro bono basis or at a drastically reduced fee - they take the high profile cases simply to be in the media for the colossal publicity and to serve their own pecuniary interests more so than the client's legal interest. The ostensibly guilty client is simply a means to a longer term end and the end is making money.

Take this Ellis Rubin character from down here in Fla (he's now dead so there can't be any defamation claim). He defended a prostitute and came up with the nymphomaniac defense, defended some kid who murdered someone and came up with the "TV intoxication" defense trying to say that all the violence on tv made him crazy and not realize he was killing, and a shitload of other theories which dominated the news for months each time there was a trial. Meanwhile, everyone could see that the clients were guilty and what he was saying was undiluted horse shit.

Never mind that he lost every single one of those high profile cases and probably got paid very little for them, because he was on the news and on courtv every day, the public thought that he was some kind of brilliant, ace litigator and flocked to him for his services after the high profile trials which invariably ended in convictions. The key being that it was the paying public shelling out $600, $700 or who knows how much per hour in order to have this guy tell them in the end something like, don't worry, we'll file an appeal.

Back to the Letterman case, it sounds like the evidence is overwhelming - a phony check, items provided as proof of the extortion attempt, probable govt wiretaps, etc., and it's only the beginning. Most of the good stuff is not going to be released publicly until later when motions in limine or to suppress are filed.

If it looks this bad now then, im my opinion, the defense lawyer would be serving his client's interest much better by trying to negotiate a plea for him and avoiding a trial instead of having some kind of Ellis Rubin type of theatrical trial where the end result will be a statement to the client to the effect of - "don"t worry, we'll appeal". Meanwhile, the phones at the law offices will be ringing off the hook for weeks as they prepare the appeal.









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Re: The Letterman Blackmail: Enter the Dragon
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2009, 07:04:59 pm »
Shargel is a Cutler type. When Cutler got tossed from Gotti's defense, they went to Shargel.     

Ron Kuby is the ultimate pro bono publicity hog.   

Hiring Shargel, to me, is like saying you want to play hardball. That guy Halderman must have some salacious dirt. I suspect that Letterman will not want it to go to trial because of the dirt. It will be interesting to see what happens.


Hiring Kuby is like saying, "this is a lost cause, but why not challenge the Constitution with a porcine pony-tailed attorney?" 

 

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Re: The Letterman Blackmail: Enter the Dragon
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2009, 07:18:07 pm »
Terribly bad show me dear. I was given to expect better from you.  :snack:

To be honest i was more noticing the reference to Johnny Carson who, although being a resident of the Eastern side of the pond i'm well aware is very much an older gentleman and would therefore only catch the eye of, how should we say?, the more mature lady. I always had you down as a thrusting young whippersnapper and not really the silver surfer, golden girl type?  :wink:



Carson? He's dead.

But, there's nothing wrong with admitting that he had some mojo, like lots of other absent shipmates that live on digitally or in celluloid -- William Powell & Humphrey Bogart, for example.

There's some young bucks who I like -- Wallace Langham for instance. He has a way about him.

Who does Daphne like? Hugh Grant? 




 

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Re: The Letterman Blackmail: Enter the Dragon
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2009, 07:48:49 pm »

Hiring Kuby is like saying, "this is a lost cause, but why not challenge the Constitution with a porcine pony-tailed attorney?" 

 


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I'd imagine that if there is sensitive dirt like pics or video, the State would try to keep it under seal and away from the public but if that's the case then there may be more charges besides extortion. I don't know at this stage what to make of it.

If the guy worked for 48 hrs then he likely has knowledge about surveillance and that type of stuff but really, what can he say in his defense? He allegedly demanded money from Dave to avoid unpleasant publicity. No matter how salacious the dirt is, it's not going to help his case. Dave already said that he testified about what he did to a grand jury and told everyone so it's not like he going back off.

To the contrary, i think the publicity from this case is going to be a boost for his ratings. Also, whichever members from his staff that he copulated with, they are sure to get book deals and interview offers should they want to exploit their 15 mins of fame so it won't all be so dire for the "victims".

To me the biggest loser in all this sure appears to be Halderman if he opts for a trial instead of the best deal he can get from the State.






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Re: The Letterman Blackmail: Enter the Dragon
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2009, 09:05:03 pm »
They were really hammering Dave on Morning Joe.  Made some good points about "what if this happened anywhere else" sexual harrassment arguments, but criticizing him for having affairs is wrong.  Hardworking people spend more quality time with their team than with their family.  Relationships blossom....shit happens.


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Re: The Letterman Blackmail: Enter the Dragon
« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2009, 09:47:11 pm »
I said it would be a ratings bonanza for Dave.

Bonanza means good here in NY. I don't know what it means aboard the Pacific Princess, Captain Steubing.

And Torchie, I don't think there's sexual harrassment involved. Ever watch the show and see the female staffers? They're throwing footballs, putting up drywall, no, these women are not being sexually harrassed.

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Re: The Letterman Blackmail: Enter the Dragon
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2009, 01:02:11 am »
Hardworking people spend more quality time with their team than with their family.  Relationships blossom....shit happens.



Sounds like youre speaking from experience there, jiggy.  :grin:

This guy wrote some good stuff for Slate..

http://www.slate.com/id/2102352/

http://www.slate.com/id/2103754/

Doesnt sound like the flamboyant Ellis Rubin/ Dominic Barbara/ Leslie Abramson/ type from his writings. I guess we'll find out for sure, soon.

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Re: The Letterman Blackmail: Enter the Dragon
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2009, 01:53:03 am »
They were really hammering Dave on Morning Joe.  Made some good points about "what if this happened anywhere else" sexual harrassment arguments, but criticizing him for having affairs is wrong.  Hardworking people spend more quality time with their team than with their family.  Relationships blossom....shit happens.

That's what I say...

Dave got caught up, shit can't stay under cover forever, he must have known shit was gonna air out sooner or later.  Charge it to the game and move on...
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Re: The Letterman Blackmail: Enter the Dragon
« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2009, 08:54:59 am »
Yeah B, I unfortunately do speak from experience. 

That's what I say...

Dave got caught up, shit can't stay under cover forever, he must have known shit was gonna air out sooner or later.  Charge it to the game and move on...


I don't completely agree.  I'm not morally outraged at him screwing around on his wife, just disappointed....but he should be reprimanded by CBS for sexual harassment and cultivating that culture.  Contrary to what Cardy says, it is sexual harassment....a quid pro quo, if you will.  If someone is benefiting from this casting couch culture, then someone is damaged by it.  Did these women feel the needed to put out to further their careers?  Did Dave expect to dip his pen in the company ink as a benefit to being the boss?  Was others following his stead?  Classic sexual harassment, no doubt.


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Re: The Letterman Blackmail: Enter the Dragon
« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2009, 12:52:39 pm »
Rumored to be one of the staff members that Dave had carnal relations with, Stephanie Birkitt..



Wonder if SHE"S also married.

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Re: The Letterman Blackmail: Enter the Dragon
« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2009, 01:05:36 pm »
It's headline news here in the United States of America, my country.




And this is whats wrong with our country. So he banged a few wenches that work for his show. Doesnt this country have more important shit to be concerned with?

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« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2009, 01:15:47 pm »
like usual, kid, you not only miss the point....you miss all points.


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Re: The Letterman Blackmail: Enter the Dragon
« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2009, 01:21:05 pm »
No, I didnt miss you whinging about some type of sexual harassment, to which no charges have ever been filed. Dont you think if anyone had a legitimate bitch about this, it would be that wenches he banged..that is, unless, they were ready and willing.

Edit: And besides.. have you seen his wife? I dont blame him.

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