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So fucked up its good.
« on: February 19, 2010, 09:41:42 pm »
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Ive been watching these phillipino Covicts dancing for the last half hour, weird funny and entertaining.

You have to watch the Thriller one and jump. :rotf:

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Re: So fucked up its good.
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2010, 11:58:15 pm »
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Here's the thriller one...



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I was surprised to see so many females dancing in the Jump video..I thought they would have kept the genders separated.

 The thriller one kicks major ass, with it's cross-dressing 'female' lead...now that is some funny shit...scary/creepy...but funny



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Re: So fucked up its good.
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2010, 12:08:46 am »
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OKAY...this shit is enough to make me want to go to prison.
and boy, those convicts can sure make a straight line, can't they? I'm (easily) impressed

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Re: So fucked up its good.
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2010, 03:48:58 am »
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yea its some of these that kept me up till 4am, I wonder if the policy works?

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Re: So fucked up its good.
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2010, 04:26:27 am »
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that is like years old and you're only just discovering it now?

pfft!!!

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Re: So fucked up its good.
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2010, 07:33:36 am »
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Quiet Hogweiller, no one else has posted it.

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Re: So fucked up its good.
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2010, 11:42:57 am »
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that is like years old and you're only just discovering it now?

pfft!!!


it's not a new discovery. it's revisiting. Do you think Beethoven's music is played today because a pianist just discovered it? Or does he play Beethoven because his music has been played before, and still enjoyed 182 years after the composer's death? Just because these videos are not the newest releases to be found on YouTube, it does not, in any way, diminish their entertainment value for those who found them entertaining. And those who did not find them entertaining could simply hit the 'stop' button.

And btw...is it truly years old, or is it 'like' years old? I know my numbers pretty well, and as far as I know, you can count from one to one billion, and never encounter 'one hundred like and two' or any such thing. I checked my keyboard, and didn't see a 'like' button on the number pad, either.
But in case that isn't exactly what you meant, numerically speaking...it still doesn't make sense. I can be like a supermodel, but it doesn't mean I AM a supermodel.

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Re: So fucked up its good.
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2010, 12:31:59 pm »
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Its on youtube, cuz it was on the news first, years ago..

Its a good idea the prisoners exercising....

but I like the concept of one of the USA's sheriffs idea of jail time....he makes them camp (live in tents)....he said if fine American soldiers are camped overseas in Iraq in horrendous conditions, so should criminals live in tents...

I agree with him....

don't ask me the state or the Sheriffs name, I don't remember him or the state..

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Re: So fucked up its good.
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2010, 07:50:42 am »
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Its on youtube, cuz it was on the news first, years ago..

Its a good idea the prisoners exercising....

but I like the concept of one of the USA's sheriffs idea of jail time....he makes them camp (live in tents)....he said if fine American soldiers are camped overseas in Iraq in horrendous conditions, so should criminals live in tents...

I agree with him....

don't ask me the state or the Sheriffs name, I don't remember him or the state..

Quote from Wiki:

Prior to the election of Sheriff Joe Arpaio in 1993, the prisoner population in Maricopa County Jail, Arizona, the 4th largest jail system in the world[24], exceeded the maximum number of inmates allowed in its facilities. Prisoners were routinely released from custody prior to completing their sentence due to the overcrowding. In a study conducted in 1993 it was estimated that construction of a new facility would cost approximately $70,000,000. Sheriff Arpaio, concerned about the cost of a new facility and reasoning that military tents were good enough for the men and women of the U.S. armed forces who fought in Operation Desert Storm, ordered that a Tent Jail be constructed utilizing inmate labor [25]. It consisted of Korean War era tents donated by the United States armed forces, and a 50 ft (15.4 m) observation tower with a vacancy sign mounted on the front. The final cost of the project was approximately $100,000 and it is capable of housing over 2400 Inmates.

All inmates housed outside in the open tents (N yard for males and O yard for females) are "volunteers" in the "Working Inmate Program" and must agree to work an assigned job and comply with the Sheriff's grooming standards. Inmates who decline to work or refuse to groom themselves are relocated inside a hardened facility along with the rest of the jail population.


Now...this man went from a proposed 70 MILLION dollar facility plan, to an out of pocket expense of 100 grand. BRILLIANT !!!!

I'm also a fan of the Texas sheriff that has the inmates wear pink jumpsuits. The entire jail is painted pink. The bars, the walls, the floors..everything is pink. The shoes are pink, the jumpsuits are pink, the towels and sheets are pink. There was an interview on CBS about this place, and the reporter was talking to one inmate, and he was saying how the pink was a good deterrent, because he wouldnt' want to go back to jail and wear pink anymore. Down the cell block, you hear a random inmate yell " that makes two of us" and then, from another random cell "Make that three!"  (mystery cell voice adds " FOUR!!" )
The sheriff estimated that the re-offense rate had dropped by 70%. Mind you, this is a tiny little jail, but I wonder why bigger institutions haven't given this a shot, if it actually works.

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Re: So fucked up its good.
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2010, 10:15:55 am »
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That sheriff from Arizona is a prick. He has made himself as something of a mini-dictator in his locale. He has been trampling the Constitutional rights of citizens who look like they might be illegal aliens and decided that he is going to enforce federal law despite the Justice Dept telling him to fuck off and leave federal law enforcement to the feds. Just Google News his name.

It's only a matter of time before a multi-million dollar civil rights violation lawsuit and verdict comes down and his county gets stuck with the bill. They're going to need a whole lot more tents afterwards because they wont be able to afford any jails.
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Re: So fucked up its good.
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2010, 11:15:20 am »
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That sheriff from Arizona is a prick. He has made himself as something of a mini-dictator in his locale. He has been trampling the Constitutional rights of citizens who look like they might be illegal aliens and decided that he is going to enforce federal law despite the Justice Dept telling him to fuck off and leave federal law enforcement to the feds. Just Google News his name.

It's only a matter of time before a multi-million dollar civil rights violation lawsuit and verdict comes down and his county gets stuck with the bill. They're going to need a whole lot more tents afterwards because they wont be able to afford any jails.

From what I read, there is definitely something going on. He's focused on immigration so much so that one article said his felony warrants are going unserved, into the tens of thousands. Like they say, where there's smoke, there's fire. The grand jury has ahold of this now...it'll be interesting to see what happens.

One favorable note..he did find 16,000 illegals, 70% of which were felons. How he got them is a whole 'nother matter. Something else that I found interesting was the list of county officials or other people of some importance that he had arrested or investigated, who seemingly (from what they say, of course) did nothing more than oppose the sheriff, or support someone who was opposed to the sheriff.

He must have his hands in quite a lot of pies to have been re-elected this many times, though. Wonder if he'll run again next term.

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« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2010, 11:40:19 am »
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From what I read, there is definitely something going on. He's focused on immigration so much so that one article said his felony warrants are going unserved, into the tens of thousands. Like they say, where there's smoke, there's fire. The grand jury has ahold of this now...it'll be interesting to see what happens.

One favorable note..he did find 16,000 illegals, 70% of which were felons. How he got them is a whole 'nother matter. Something else that I found interesting was the list of county officials or other people of some importance that he had arrested or investigated, who seemingly (from what they say, of course) did nothing more than oppose the sheriff, or support someone who was opposed to the sheriff.

He must have his hands in quite a lot of pies to have been re-elected this many times, though. Wonder if he'll run again next term.

Those are the type of people that are voted into office once and then they usurp power onto themselves and become fascist or socialist dictators. Can no legit governmental authority tell this guy what to do already (and he's just a sheriff; imagine if he were President). He's got his own agenda and he's sticking to it.

Nevermind that immigration is strictly federal law and he has nothing to do with federal law. He's going to stop, question and harass everybody who looks like they might be illegal and arrest those who dont have their paperwork in order over the objections of the Dept of Justice who told him to fuck off.

For his next act, maybe he'll decide to allocate himself the power of the IRS to tax and start arresting people for not paying taxes. It's fucking crazy what he is doing and so far getting away with.

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Re: So fucked up its good.
« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2010, 01:54:10 pm »
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Sounds a bit like "robocop" aka The mayor of Middlesborough who was the former Police cheif. He baecame a Pariah of the left and mainstream with all his stop and search policies but He got elected promising to cut crime and thats what he did and was re-elected with a bigger majority.

He was not beholden to the political classes so was beyond there manipulation which they hated. To be honest I would guess you should use local media to take a look at this guy as in the end thats what counts.

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« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2010, 02:38:56 pm »
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A fucknut like this who goes into business for himself does the public he's suppose to be serving little good. He's been reelected several times too with double-digit margins of victories but if in the end a jury decides that he violated a citizen's constitutional rights and has to pay millions in damages, then he's not upholding his office or doing his job very good. This idiot and his county are looking at over 2000 lawsuits filed against him. The defense costs alone for that would drain the resources of most cities.



From his Wiki entry:

-Arpaio set up a "Tent City" as an extension of the Maricopa County Jail. Tent City is located in a yard next to a more permanent structure containing toilets, showers, an area for meals, and a day room.[16] It has become notable particularly because of Phoenix's extreme temperatures. Daytime temperatures inside the tents have been reported as high as 150 °F (65 °C) in the top bunks.[17] During the summer, fans and water are supplied in the tents

During the summer of 2003, when outside temperatures exceeded 110 °F (43 °C), which is higher than average, Arpaio said to complaining inmates, "It's 120 degrees in Iraq and the soldiers are living in tents, have to wear full body armor, and they didn't commit any crimes, so shut your mouths."[19] Inmates were given permission to wear only their pink underwear.

-One of Arpaio's most visible public relations actions was the introduction of pink underwear, which the Maricopa County Sheriff's website cites as being "world famous.

Arpaio's success in gaining press coverage with the pink underwear resulted in him extending the use of the color. He introduced pink handcuffs, using the event to promote his book, Sheriff Joe Arpaio, America's Toughest Sheriff

-Arpaio has instructed his sheriff's deputies and members of his civilian posse to arrest illegal aliens. Arpaio told the Washington Times, "My message is clear: if you come here and I catch you, you're going straight to jail.... I'm not going to turn these people over to federal authorities so they can have a free ride back to Mexico. I'll give them a free ride to my jail."[29]

On March 3, 2009, the United States Department of Justice "notified Arpaio of the investigation in a letter saying his enforcement methods may unfairly target Hispanics and Spanish-speaking people" [30] Arpaio initially denied any wrongdoing and stated that he welcomed the investigation, and would cooperate fully.[31] By May, 2009, Arpaio had hired a Washington D.C. lobbyist, who wrote to Obama administration officials suggesting that the decision to probe Arpaio had been driven by political rivalries and score settling.[32] In July, 2009, Arpaio publicly stated that he would not cooperate with the investigation.[33]

In October 2009, the Department of Homeland Security removed the authority of Arpaio's 160 federally trained deputies to make immigration arrests in the field. Despite the actions of the Department of Homeland Security, Arpaio has maintained that he will still pursue illegal aliens under Arizona state law

-From 2004 through November 2007, Arpaio was the target of 2,150 lawsuits in U.S. District Court and hundreds more in Maricopa County courts, with more than $50 million in claims being filed,[35] 50 times as many prison-conditions lawsuits as the New York City, Los Angeles, Chicago, and Houston jail systems combined.[36] Allegations of cruel treatment of inmates as well as living conditions have been cited by Amnesty International in a report issued on the treatment of inmates in Maricopa County facilities.[37]

In her book on prison policy The Use of Force by Detention Officers, Arizona State University criminal justice professor Marie L. Griffin reported on a 1998 study commissioned by Arpaio to examine recidivism rates based on conditions of confinement. Comparing recidivism rates under Arpaio to those under his predecessor, the study found "there was no significant difference in recidivism observed between those offenders released in 1989-1990 and those released in 1994-1995."

-Joe Arpaio's practices have been criticized by organizations such as Amnesty International,[37] the American Civil Liberties Union, the Arizona Ecumenical Council, the American Jewish Committee,[44] and the Arizona chapter of the Anti-Defamation League.[45] The editorial board of The New York Times called Arpaio "America's Worst Sheriff".


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Re: So fucked up its good.
« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2010, 02:57:07 pm »
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I've only just spotted this on here and haven't got the time to formulate a proper post but just to pop in with my point of view, this Sheriff cunt is a vindictive bully of gargantuan proportions and any people here who back his actions are uninformed fuckin drooling spazz munchers. So you really think that subjecting prisoners who may be guilty of not paying a parking fine to extreme heat and fluid deprivation whilst being preyed on by foul, obnoxious, violent, sexual predators is a great way to uphold law and order?? Fuck, i'd hate to be your kids and drop some of my breakfast on the floor and forget to lick it up. Jeez. Thought at least some of you could start a fire without an incendiary device at least.  :slap:

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Re: So fucked up its good.
« Reply #16 on: February 22, 2010, 06:00:30 pm »
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I guess I'm in the minority when I opine that I dont want our law breakers, especially the bad ones, to be comfortable in any fucking way. I want them to be as fucking miserable as possible, with out being subjected to "cruel and inhumane" punishment.

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Re: So fucked up its good.
« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2010, 06:13:51 pm »
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I guess I'm in the minority when I opine that I dont want our law breakers, especially the bad ones, to be comfortable in any fucking way. I want them to be as fucking miserable as possible, with out being subjected to "cruel and inhumane" punishment.

Yeah but punishments don't fit the crimes...

America has been far, far too hard in some instances and I know for fact in my State in Australia, the courts are disgracefully too lenient....

It embarrasses me actually....I am thoroughly ashamed of our justice system...

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Re: So fucked up its good.
« Reply #18 on: February 22, 2010, 08:27:22 pm »
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I guess I'm in the minority when I opine that I dont want our law breakers, especially the bad ones, to be comfortable in any fucking way. I want them to be as fucking miserable as possible, with out being subjected to "cruel and inhumane" punishment.

You're not alone. I don't care if convicted criminals sleep in tent cities. The sheriff has a point when he says that our armed forces live in tents, in full gear, and don't bitch about it..and they aren't incarcerated. Well, I'm sure they *do* bitch about it, but you know what I mean. I think that I might be a step farther than  you on the road to eternal damnation, because if someone is proved to be a murderer, child molestor, rapist, etc...I don't really care about cruel and inhuman punishment where those types are concerned. They didn't care a bit about the cruel and inhumane sufferings of their victims, so fuck them and fuck their civil rights. If there is a confession, if there is DNA evidence, if there is any way to prove beyond all doubt (not just reasonable doubt), but rock-solid PROOF that the person is guilty, I say they deserve the most horrid form of punishment imaginable. Like I said..they didn't give a thought toward the suffering of their victim..why should they get any concern from me about them? they took away the rights of the victim...take way the rights of the criminal. I guess I'm more of an 'eye for an eye' kind of gal.

Quote from Wiki: "In October 2009, the Department of Homeland Security removed the authority of Arpaio's 160 federally trained deputies to make immigration arrests in the field. Despite the actions of the Department of Homeland Security, Arpaio has maintained that he will still pursue illegal aliens under Arizona state law"

 So this is the loophole the sheriff uses to continue his search for illegals. But to clear things up...what exactly does this department do? Pull over every person who looks somewhat Latino, and demand to see papers? Is that where the whole civil rights thing started? I read about 5 articles, and none of them gave any specifics as to what the civil right violations were supposed to have been.

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« Reply #19 on: February 22, 2010, 09:02:51 pm »
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Yeah but punishments don't fit the crimes...

then don't do the crime..simple solution to all the bitching inmates! If you don't want to be punished, don't commit crime. I think that it is far more common to see that the punishment doesn't fit the crime, because we Americans are waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too lenient, and the criminals are not punished harshly enough. Perhaps if the punishments were more severe, we wouldn't have near as many repeat offenders.


America has been far, far too hard in some instances and I know for fact in my State in Australia, the courts are disgracefully too lenient....

It embarrasses me actually....I am thoroughly ashamed of our justice system...

I don't think it's possible to be too hard on a criminal. I mean, in other countries, if you get caught shoplifting, you get  your hand cut off. Is this too harsh? No. Because maybe someone would think twice about stealing if they knew it could cost them their hand.

I think the other part of America's problem is that we don't carry out our punishments. How many people are on death row, years and years after being sentenced? It is more likely that they will die of old age than to die by execution. I think that if we carried out the punishments in a timely fashion, people would realize that a death sentence doesn't translate to years of living in an air conditioned cell, getting three meals a day, and getting a college education while waiting for an execution that will, in all likelyhood, never happen.
What kind of deterrent is that? Half the time, they live better in jail than they did or would if they were released back out in public.

I think it's very telling that the crime rate in America is what it is . Other countries that  don't fuck around with carrying out punishments don't seem to have the crime rate we do, and they don't seem to have the re-offender rate that we do. Other countries might be considered less advanced than America...but I think we could stand to learn a thing or two from them. Look at our jail populations exploding, not having enough jails/prisons to hold criminals so we are forced to release them due to overcrowding, and then everyone is all shocked and surprised that a released rapist decided to rape again. Well...we sure aren't doing something right.

This is a classic example of what's wrong with our judicial system..read the below about a lovely man named Joseph E Duncan III :

His first recorded sex crime occurred in 1978 in his hometown of Tacoma, Washington, when he was 15 years old. In that incident he raped a 9-year-old boy at gunpoint, and the following year he was arrested driving a stolen car.

He was sentenced as a juvenile and sent to Dyslin's Boys' ranch in Tacoma, where he told a therapist who was assigned to his case that he had bound and sexually assaulted six boys, according to a report by the Associated Press. He also told the therapist that he estimated that he had raped 13 younger boys by the time he was 16.[5]

In 1980 (also in Tacoma), Duncan stole a number of guns from a neighbor and then abducted a 14-year-old boy and sodomized him at gunpoint. Duncan was sentenced to 20 years in prison, but served 14 years then was released on parole and re-incarcerated for three more years for parole violations.[6]

In 2004, Duncan was charged with groping the genitals of a six-year-old boy. He was arrested in April 2005 in Detroit Lakes, Minnesota. The judge granted bail at $15,000. A businessman in Fargo, North Dakota, Joe Crary, gave Duncan money for bail.[7] When freed, Duncan skipped bail.[8]


OKAY....why would he EVER be released on parole? and why the FUCK would he EVER be released on bail, with a record like his? thanks to our BRILLIANT system, he was released (and jumped) bail, and then he managed to kill a mother, her boyfriend, and the mother's oldest son, all beaten to death with a hammer. The boy managed to wander around the house, bleeding everywhere, before collapsing and dying at his dead mother's feet. Mr. Duncan took the daughter and remaining son and raped them both, before raping and killing the boy in front of his sister. She gets to live the rest of her life with that image in her mind, of her brother being raped and murdered.

and there are actually people out there who claim the American justice system is too harsh? are you fucking kidding me???????????????