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What Constitutes Debate?
« on: December 10, 2008, 10:35:10 AM »

I'm fairly certain that it's not posting personal information that's been gleaned from iffy sources.

The latest retardedness from a certain pig has finally convinced me that there is really no point at all in trying to have any kind of a debate at a flame forum. Color me stubborn, but I continued to hold out hope that, at least in the Coals section, it was possible to have a give-and-take without that kind of silliness.

I was wrong. Commence flogging. :rotf:
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Re: What Constitutes Debate?
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2008, 11:02:51 AM »

It is one thing to have a heated exchange and to knock someones intelligence during the throws of a legitimate debate, that's what this forum was designed for. It is another to have to scour the internet for bullshit on the person you're debating with because all you have are weak and flimsy idea's and are incapable of producing a logical argument. Unfortunately, this is a concept that a lot of people miss or are incapable of understanding.
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Re: What Constitutes Debate?
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2008, 11:14:21 AM »

I find it mildly disturbing that ANYONE is so interested in me and my life that they actually infiltrate private groups just to save my posts. I suppose I should be flattered, but not all of them live halfway 'round the world.

Oh by the way people, I'm a bad person for overcoming an addiction. You should probably either kick me out of here or stay far, far away. ::)
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Re: What Constitutes Debate?
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2008, 11:32:49 AM »

I may have said this during a past discussion with you but; I wouldn't even consider that "dirt". It takes a tremendous amount of perseverance to overcome addiction. While you were out learning a hard life lesson that made you a better, stronger, and smarter person in the long run; the person who found that very fact as some sort of a point of contention was probably flourishing in their own homemade sea of miserable iniquity and hasn't learned to deal with life as it is being dealt to them. Their only means to deal with their own self loathing is to try and make others feel as miserable as them. It makes the plastic baby jesus very sad.  :vc:
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Re: What Constitutes Debate?
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2008, 11:56:02 AM »

Whay addiction may I ask?

well done btw, theyve actually dug something good about you and are to dumb to realise it. I assume its the dungpig casker?

Now how can I be weened of my addictions of horse racing and wanking of to internet porn?
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Re: What Constitutes Debate?
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2008, 12:05:58 PM »


Now how can I be weened of my addictions of horse racing and wanking of to internet porn?

May I suggest the consumption of offal?  :vc:
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Re: What Constitutes Debate?
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2008, 12:13:52 PM »

Offal is regularly eaten here, with trad dishes like Steak and kidney pie/pudding and yet people are not dropping like flies.
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Re: What Constitutes Debate?
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2008, 12:59:43 PM »

Offal is regularly eaten here, with trad dishes like Steak and kidney pie/pudding and yet people are not dropping like flies.

I know, I'm sorry. I shouldn't knock it as it is customary fair for you. I just can't find it in me to find a desire to want to consciously eat a brain when there are so many other yummy parts to eat. 
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Re: What Constitutes Debate?
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2008, 01:12:48 PM »

Exactly, your a fadish middle class female who has been de-skilled by 50 years of feminism.

I have a headache so will leave you all to your merry jibber jabber.
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Re: What Constitutes Debate?
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2008, 01:14:33 PM »

Hope you feel better and your headaches arent being caused by some sort of errant bacteria  :vc:
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Re: What Constitutes Debate?
« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2008, 03:43:54 PM »

It is one thing to have a heated exchange and to knock someones intelligence during the throws of a legitimate debate, that's what this forum was designed for. It is another to have to scour the internet for bullshit on the person you're debating with because all you have are weak and flimsy idea's and are incapable of producing a logical argument. Unfortunately, this is a concept that a lot of people miss or are incapable of understanding.

Yet you are guilty of just that are you not.


I know, I'm sorry. I shouldn't knock it as it is customary fair for you. I just can't find it in me to find a desire to want to consciously eat a brain when there are so many other yummy parts to eat.

Have you actually eaten it? If not how can you make that statement when you have no idea what it tastes like. You continuously make ignorant comments. Its outstanding
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Re: What Constitutes Debate?
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2008, 04:21:06 PM »

Yet you are guilty of just that are you not.

I'm guilty of scouring the internet for bullshit on loony and using it against him in place of formidable debate for why I find offal consumption grotesque? LOL! This is news to me and I'm sure everyone else here. Get over it already, would you? You're behaving like a trollish fucking moron.

Have you actually eaten it? If not how can you make that statement when you have no idea what it tastes like. You continuously make ignorant comments. Its outstanding

No, I have not eaten it. I've stated exactly why I have chosen not to and even provided scientific reasoning for why I feel the way I do about it. What is truly outstanding here is that you are finding what began and continues as a harmless exchange of jibes over personal opinion, as something that is actually debatable on some level.

Just listen to yourself for crying out loud, you are literally offended over trivial cultural differences and have found it necessary to deem ignorance over someone who doesn't share in your tastes. I don't run around consuming insects, bat shit, or roadkill as I find that grotesque as well and something tells me if I chose to denounce that particular behavior, there wouldn't be an sort of argument from you over it.
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Re: What Constitutes Debate?
« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2008, 04:32:25 PM »

I may have said this during a past discussion with you but; I wouldn't even consider that "dirt". It takes a tremendous amount of perseverance to overcome addiction. While you were out learning a hard life lesson that made you a better, stronger, and smarter person in the long run; the person who found that very fact as some sort of a point of contention was probably flourishing in their own homemade sea of miserable iniquity and hasn't learned to deal with life as it is being dealt to them. Their only means to deal with their own self loathing is to try and make others feel as miserable as them. It makes the plastic baby jesus very sad.  :vc:

You HAVE said it before, privately, but I appreciate your saying it again. I was rather surprised to see that post at FC, but as I have repeatedly stated, Caskur is quite insane. Anyone that says things like "I hope your children are skull-phucked to death," even in jest or as part of a flame, can't be well. Unfortunately, there are many, many sad people out there with nothing else to do with their time but sit on the internet looking for "dirt" about people they don't even know. If it makes her happy to re-post something I myself already posted elsewhere and call it a score for herself, then by all means, let her have her mirth. That's ALL she's got - I've got a life, a man, and hard-won lessons that have given me, if nothing else, insight, tolerance and compassion, three qualities that she will never have.

Whay addiction may I ask?

well done btw, theyve actually dug something good about you and are to dumb to realise it. I assume its the dungpig casker?

Now how can I be weened of my addictions of horse racing and wanking of to internet porn?

Did you mean WHY addiction? If so, it's because I responded to her "Heroin" thread in Hot Coals, which in all likelihood was a little troll on her part since she discovered (because I put my real face in my avatars because I'm not ashamed of what I look like) who I am on MSN and found out that I am in fact a recovering heroin addict. Caskur, for all her talk about having "experience" with addicts, apparently thinks that addiction isn't a disease (as the AMA and most world health organizations state it is) but a moral failing, and so she took a post that I made at a private recovery-oriented group on MSN and posted it at FC. She got said post from another ankle ninja that's been following me around for years because, apparently, my ass it THAT HOT, even on the internet, and there are some people who spend most of their days and nights scouring the web for any little tidbit about me or from me.

I'm famous dontcha know. Want an autograph? ::)

Oh - sorry, I can't help you with your wanking addiction, but if it's not interfering with your day-to-day life, then go ahead and indulge. As for the gambling - look into GA. :grin:
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Re: What Constitutes Debate?
« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2008, 05:23:23 PM »

I'm guilty of scouring the internet for bullshit on loony and using it against him in place of formidable debate for why I find offal consumption grotesque? LOL! This is news to me and I'm sure everyone else here. Get over it already, would you? You're behaving like a trollish fucking moron.

No, I have not eaten it. I've stated exactly why I have chosen not to and even provided scientific reasoning for why I feel the way I do about it. What is truly outstanding here is that you are finding what began and continues as a harmless exchange of jibes over personal opinion, as something that is actually debatable on some level.

Just listen to yourself for crying out loud, you are literally offended over trivial cultural differences and have found it necessary to deem ignorance over someone who doesn't share in your tastes. I don't run around consuming insects, bat shit, or roadkill as I find that grotesque as well and something tells me if I chose to denounce that particular behavior, there wouldn't be an sort of argument from you over it.

Again, you are ignorant. These things have been eaten for centuries and with out the worlds population dying from it. The fact you are a middle class white women that cant understand it doesn't make it sick wrong or anything else. Your poorly back weak argument and questionable link its proof of anything.

The fact you have obviously gotten pissed off is funny and enough reason to push you further on this. I'm not crying or anything else. Although I do like how you cry troll when you are backed into a corner

Now, how about all the PI you have looked for on people in the past, Oranje to name just one. Then you sent it to anyone you thought may be interested. Face it you are one of the worst PI users around
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Re: What Constitutes Debate?
« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2008, 05:27:33 PM »

For Pete's sake, can we contain this to one thread? It's getting a little irritating stumbling over this happy crappy in EVERY SINGLE THREAD.

Who gives a shit if Dani would rather not eat offal, or if you think that goat balls make a fine feast? It's FOOD - people either like something or they don't. I'm starting to fucking feel like I'm at FC again.

SETTLE DOWN NOW, SNOOKIE.
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Re: What Constitutes Debate?
« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2008, 06:03:25 PM »

For Pete's sake, can we contain this to one thread? It's getting a little irritating stumbling over this happy crappy in EVERY SINGLE THREAD.

Who gives a shit if Dani would rather not eat offal, or if you think that goat balls make a fine feast? It's FOOD - people either like something or they don't. I'm starting to fucking feel like I'm at FC again.

SETTLE DOWN NOW, SNOOKIE.

No shit. Just another erstwhile troll from FC, with too much time on his hands (and who has little conscious command of the written form of English, I might add) is exactly what we have here.

That's just another warning for you snookie. Have a great day retard.

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« Reply #16 on: December 10, 2008, 06:09:35 PM »



That's just another warning for you snookie. Have a great day retard.

Another threat? Whats with you and threats? Rather weak for a great debater  :rotf:
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Re: What Constitutes Debate?
« Reply #17 on: December 10, 2008, 06:45:57 PM »

Hope you feel better and your headaches arent being caused by some sort of errant bacteria  :vc:


Weird, I came over so ill so suddenly i took to bed for over 3 hours. Headache and feeling very icky, i did think it was the onset of flu or food poisoning but I feel better now. Haven't had offal in a while but am beginning to crave liver and onions with creamy mash tatties.

At the very least what grunter posted doesn't belong in a discussion forum. If it was gleaned from a private chatroom she should be banned

Regardless of what sum cunt claims I do remember him posting about shooting up H at f4$ because i spoke to Ruthless 1 about it on the phone., it was in a "what drugs do you do" thread. Along the lines of the silly fucker(and his then wife) needs to get his shit together of he will crash.

Personally I dont consider addiction a disease in the strict sense of the word or a moral failing. Having know many smackheads in the past to which most are now dead and very few of those dead made it far past 30 praise is in order. Last came across an ex-junkie a couple of years ago who was fresh out of prison who came of in prison without methodone or any assistance.

He was full on battling his demons and quite volatile, he had a kid now and needed to get sorted out. most of the shit he was now getting was from the system and wider society but I wouldve backed him.

He was fucking on a mission that dude, kinda liked and admired him.
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Re: What Constitutes Debate?
« Reply #18 on: December 10, 2008, 07:30:10 PM »


Weird, I came over so ill so suddenly i took to bed for over 3 hours. Headache and feeling very icky, i did think it was the onset of flu or food poisoning but I feel better now. Haven't had offal in a while but am beginning to crave liver and onions with creamy mash tatties.

I'm glad you're feeling better and to be honest, I felt almost the same way last evening...I had a rip roaring headache and actually slept for more than three hours. Maybe it's a bug?
Now that you mention it, every once in a great while my parents request liver and onions, which I never really considered as "offal". I've eaten it before and didn't find it sickening, but it isn't something I would make a regular habit of eating because I simply didn't care for the taste and texture of the meat.

At the very least what grunter posted doesn't belong in a discussion forum. If it was gleaned from a private chatroom she should be banned

Regardless of what sum cunt claims I do remember him posting about shooting up H at f4$ because i spoke to Ruthless 1 about it on the phone., it was in a "what drugs do you do" thread. Along the lines of the silly fucker(and his then wife) needs to get his shit together of he will crash.

Personally I dont consider addiction a disease in the strict sense of the word or a moral failing. Having know many smackheads in the past to which most are now dead and very few of those dead made it far past 30 praise is in order. Last came across an ex-junkie a couple of years ago who was fresh out of prison who came of in prison without methodone or any assistance.

He was full on battling his demons and quite volatile, he had a kid now and needed to get sorted out. most of the shit he was now getting was from the system and wider society but I wouldve backed him.

He was fucking on a mission that dude, kinda liked and admired him.

As I just mentioned in the Afghanistan thread, I do believe addiction in general is a sort of illness. I think it is easily stigmatized as a moral failing because by the time the occurrence becomes a noticeable problem, the person is usually quite down and out.

I know plenty of people on both ends of the spectrum-addicts or recovering addicts- and some of them regardless of income or lack of, are pretty damned insightful and intelligent, but a lot of them are not. It's quite scary to see them struggle like they do.

And I agree, any information gleaned from a private forum and posted in the Coals section by some idiopathic cunt rag to feign debate, should be removed promptly. I'm just sorry it's out of my hands, but glad we have our own forum that won't tolerate such nonsense.
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Re: What Constitutes Debate?
« Reply #19 on: December 10, 2008, 07:31:53 PM »

Another threat? Whats with you and threats? Rather weak for a great debater  :rotf:

Sorry if you feel "threatened", read the rules dip shit. It's just a discussion forum. Do yourself a favor, get a life.
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