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So how bad do you reckon its going to get ?
« on: December 16, 2008, 11:10:35 AM »

I'm going to go for fairly rapid descend towards global depression combined with deflation, mass unemployment and eventual violent civil insurrection.

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Re: So how bad do you reckon its going to get ?
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2008, 11:28:22 AM »

I'll have an E please Bob.  :hammer:
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Re: So how bad do you reckon its going to get ?
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2008, 11:34:55 AM »

If it wasnt for the $700 billion bailout, i think we would already be halfway there. It may still not be enough. We need a domestic wartime spending program minus the war. All of the money we spent on Iraq should have been spent at home keeping people employed so they can in turn buy homes, furniture, hire plumbers, real estate agents and lawyers, pay property taxes and in general spend money on the economy. Once our economy is strong, that helps to drive the other world economies. It all starts with buying homes.

We need to pass a constitutional amendment to get Bush the fuck out of there early and let Obama take over asap. Even if it's only by a couple of weeks. The guy and his administration have no clue of how bad they fucked things up or how to fix it. Half of the 700 billion has already been spent and they havent forced the banks to start making home loans to credit worthy people yet.  It's like the Keystone Cops are running the government.

Right now I see it as a 50-50 chance for a global depression and mass civil insurrection. We've already seen huge deflation in the price of oil and other commodities. That leads to more unemployment, less taxes collected to run the government and less consumer spending. It's only a matter of time before unemployment hits double digits in the U.S.. It's like a vicious cycle. Our government and other governments need to do more to fight this crisis.
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Re: So how bad do you reckon its going to get ?
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2008, 01:30:43 PM »

If it wasnt for the $700 billion bailout, i think we would already be halfway there. It may still not be enough. We need a domestic wartime spending program minus the war. All of the money we spent on Iraq should have been spent at home keeping people employed so they can in turn buy homes, furniture, hire plumbers, real estate agents and lawyers, pay property taxes and in general spend money on the economy. Once our economy is strong, that helps to drive the other world economies. It all starts with buying homes.

Yes it does, but the problem starts with the home loans to trailer trash that never intend to pay back the loans. Stop lending to people that can not find a deposit. Stop lending 120% on houses so losers can get houses.

This is what fucked the US in the first place. Cheap home loans are not the answer.
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Re: So how bad do you reckon its going to get ?
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2008, 01:55:46 PM »

Exactly. Which is why i said "credit worthy" above. The loans arent necessarily cheap either. Ive seen some people that really have no business owning a $150,000 home paying about 11 to 12% interest when the average was around 6%. Almost like a credit card.

The bank takes the chance on giving them a loan in the first place but fucks them in the ass in the process with double-digit interest. They really deserve what happened to them except that if we let them sink our whole country and world would also sink into a worldwide depression.

THAT is what they have to cut out. There should be like a 5% cap or something on the amount of risky, high interest loans any financial institution makes.

The irony is that for the short term, the best solution to get us out of this mess is to loosen credit instead of to make it tighter.



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Re: So how bad do you reckon its going to get ?
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2008, 02:45:02 PM »

I disagree, the worst thing at this time would be to loosen credit criteria. This just invites more losers to apply and get credit, default and worsen the situation for the financial sector. 
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Re: So how bad do you reckon its going to get ?
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2008, 06:47:10 AM »

Something has to get people spending otherwise we are truly locked into a slow death via stagflation or deflation, the problem is that the poor fuckers out there are now utterly terrified and burying their cash under mattresses. 

Even the banks are shit scared to lend anyone any money even though they've been given countless billions from the very people that they won't lend it back to  :rotf:

China is going to be very very interesting. 

The Chinese authorities are going to have to demonstrate some incredibly clear and concise forward thinking and economic dexterity the likes of which one would never in a million years attribute to a totalitarian government.  If they get it wrong and China doesn't continue to maintain the high growth rates that it needs to pull people out of poverty then they will almost definitely face major civil unrest.
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Re: So how bad do you reckon its going to get ?
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2008, 07:38:14 AM »

I disagree, the worst thing at this time would be to loosen credit criteria. This just invites more losers to apply and get credit, default and worsen the situation for the financial sector.

Losers?  C'mon!  Once many of the businesses on the bubble go into bankruptcy because they can't make payroll, you'll see 15-20% losers instead of 7%.

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Re: So how bad do you reckon its going to get ?
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2008, 09:14:02 PM »

Something has to get people spending

Yes, people who are credit worthy and fiscally sound.  If you start that "anyone can get credit" merry-go-round again, we will see ourselves in a perpetual credit hell forever! 

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Re: So how bad do you reckon its going to get ?
« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2008, 04:14:37 PM »

A technological boom will wipe all this away at a drop of a hat.

so whats it going to be?

Nanotechnology or Helium 3 mining on the moon?
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Re: So how bad do you reckon its going to get ?
« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2008, 08:29:22 PM »

A technological boom will wipe all this away at a drop of a hat.

so whats it going to be?

Nanotechnology or Helium 3 mining on the moon?

You'd think that it would be planet saving green tech, the 3rd World War that everyone can gear their factories up for or a way of snorting 2CB without your right eyeball exploding...yeah, a nanotech bolt on nasal tube...nice....

Funny shit.

Cunts rioted in the streets of Vladivostok yesterday...the old bill proper waded in and cracked loads of skulls its been reported...over what ?...the Russian authorities have put taxes up on foreign cars to save their "auto industry".

Firstly...what fucking auto industry...name me one Russian car brand  :uhuh:

Secondly...what the fuck is THAT to riot over, silly cunts  :hammer:

Giving these commie cunts a taste of it over the past 20 years wasn't such a good idea I reckon  :rotf:
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Re: So how bad do you reckon its going to get ?
« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2008, 08:35:27 PM »


Giving these commie cunts a taste of it over the past 20 years wasn't such a good idea I reckon  :rotf:


I hate to go on but  :rotf:

Ain't it funny how the glorious USSR and "Peoples" Republic of China got suckered right into capitalism only to get fucked right up by it  :wheelchair:

There are currently 10,000 factories a week closing down in China.  Somewhere about 400 million Chinese people moved out of the countryside into the boom cities on the coast and are now either sat around scratching their heads or moving back to Pork Chop Guangzhou.

Fuck !!!!
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