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Extortion or Free Enterprise?
« on: January 25, 2009, 05:52:17 PM »

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Plot thickens in Travolta extortion case

Police in the Bahamas are deepening their investigation into an alleged plot to extort up to $25m from Hollywood star John Travolta over the death of his 16-year-old son.

A prominent politician on the island of Grand Bahama, Pleasant Bridgewater, quit as a member of the Bahamas senate over the weekend, and investigators questioned a former tourism minister who had claimed to be a close friend of the Travoltas.

Sixteen-year-old Jett Travolta was found unconscious in a bathroom at the family?s holiday home on the island on 2 January, and hospital authorities concluded he died of a seizure.

Tarino Lightbourne, a paramedic who said he tried to revive him is still in custody, on suspicion of being part of an extortion plot, although neither the local police nor Mr Travolta?s lawyers have released details of the alleged scam.

Early reports suggested that Mr Lightbourne and others had been trying to get money in return for suppressing a photo of the 16-year-old just before he died, but conflicting accounts are now circulating in the island of 75,000 people.

The former tourism minister, Obie Wilchcombe, was questioned by police last Friday, it has emerged. He was involved in a negotiation with Mr Travolta?s lawyers which, according to some allegations, demanded payments of between $10m and $25m. He was released without charge.

So let's get this straight. John Travolta, a big star and scientologist was vacationing in the Bahamas when sadly his kid died. Let's assume that SOMEONE took photos of the big star's dead kid. Let's further assume that the person who took the photos got together with other persons and had in mind to sell the pics to an outfit like National Enquirer for 25 million dollars.

Let's say that instead of first going to the National Enquirer, these people approached Travolta's people and gave him the option of buying said pics for around the same price that the Enquirer was willing to pay - $25 million, negotiable.

If Tavolta doesnt want to pay it all he has to do is tell them to fuck off and then the SOMEONE can just sell the photos to the Enquirer or any other rag willing to pay for them. If they have any business sense, they will no doubt contact several of the largest tabloid rags in the world and start a bidding war to see who will pay the most. 

Is this really extortion? Had they not contacted Travolta, would they have done anything illegal? I dont think so. To my knowledge it's not against the law to publish a picture of a dead person in the Bahamas.

It's too bad that you have people stooping to that but hey, youre a fucking celebrity. That's part of the gig. The same people who spend $50 million to see your movie the first weekend it's released also want to know shit about you including seeing pics of your dead son.

Regardless of the legality it seems to me that what this does is to cause people to sell unflattering photos of celebrities to the rags instead of giving them the option of keeping it out of the public eye. It's shooting themselves in the foot if you ask me.

What do you guys think?

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Re: Extortion or Free Enterprise?
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2009, 06:19:51 PM »

Dead or alive the kids a juvenile and then theres privacy laws?

Its the guys dead son so likley to cause duress hence exstortion imo.

Its fucking sick, people who would pay to see these pics need flogging, and people call me a freaky pervert!
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Re: Extortion or Free Enterprise?
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2009, 11:56:21 PM »

"Well you can tell by the way they shot the corpse, its Travolta's boy, off down the morgue..ah ah ah ah not stayin' alive"

There's more to this than meets the eye.....
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Re: Extortion or Free Enterprise?
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2009, 12:18:24 AM »

obies last name is wilchcombe?? that almost sounds jewish  :vc:

...anyway

hmpf, this is a good question. i wonder if hppa laws extend to the bahamas? technically, i would think if the paramedic was there trying to resuscitate the child before he was declared dead, the child would be considered a patient. therefore, medical personnel taking the kids picture to begin with would break some sort of confidentiality law, no?

as far as "extortion" goes; it would seem like asking for millions of dollars for an opportune picture of a celebrities dead child could likely fall under that definition, no?
suppose travolta anted up the money? whats to say the creep wouldnt just turn around and sell the photos to a tabloid anyway or threaten to do so for even more money??
2.    Law. the crime of obtaining money or some other thing of value by the abuse of one's office or authority.
3.    oppressive or illegal exaction, as of excessive price or interest: the extortions of usurers.
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Re: Extortion or Free Enterprise?
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2009, 03:37:49 AM »

Those su-mmmer na-aaaaaaghtts! tell me more, tell me more.
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Re: Extortion or Free Enterprise?
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2009, 03:35:16 PM »


hmpf, this is a good question. i wonder if hppa laws extend to the bahamas?

LOL, no dear, HIPPA and our other Congressional Acts don't extend to the sovereign nation of the Bahamas.  :lmao:


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suppose travolta anted up the money? whats to say the creep wouldnt just turn around and sell the photos to a tabloid anyway or threaten to do so for even more money??

Well, that's kind of my point. Travolta can say no if he asks for money and then they can sell the pics to whomever they want.

If Tavolta pays them but they publish them anyways, then Travolta can sue them for damages for breach of contract like any other person who breaks a binding agreement.

The invasion of privacy deal that Cookie touched on is something worth looking into as to whether it exists and if a dead person has any privacy protection but assuming all those hurdles are cleared, it's likely to be a civil matter, not a criminal one.

There may be more to this like deb says but right now Im leaning in favor of the arrested Bahamians that this shouldnt be a criminal matter.
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Re: Extortion or Free Enterprise?
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2009, 11:31:02 PM »

LOL, no dear, HIPPA and our other Congressional Acts don't extend to the sovereign nation of the Bahamas.  :lmao:
hehehehe! i dunno! i never thought about it before mushy!  :lmao:

Well, that's kind of my point. Travolta can say no if he asks for money and then they can sell the pics to whomever they want.

If Tavolta pays them but they publish them anyways, then Travolta can sue them for damages for breach of contract like any other person who breaks a binding agreement.

The invasion of privacy deal that Cookie touched on is something worth looking into as to whether it exists and if a dead person has any privacy protection but assuming all those hurdles are cleared, it's likely to be a civil matter, not a criminal one.

There may be more to this like deb says but right now Im leaning in favor of the arrested Bahamians that this shouldnt be a criminal matter.

yeah, it would seem morally wrong on many levels and it really is. but as reprehensible as the acts are, i dont see anything illegal about them either.
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Re: Extortion or Free Enterprise?
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2009, 08:21:40 AM »

Nope. Just grimy people doing grimy things.

People suck.
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« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2009, 09:17:14 PM »

that they do, but brian is right. travolta has willingly commanded a public presence and has franchised astronomically off our interest in him as an entertainer. though his child should be off limits, he was unfortunately part of the package. i havent read any more about this lately. i'm dying to know how it turns out.
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« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2009, 12:21:22 PM »

that they do, but brian is right. travolta has willingly commanded a public presence and has franchised astronomically off our interest in him as an entertainer. though his child should be off limits, he was unfortunately part of the package. i havent read any more about this lately. i'm dying to know how it turns out.


depends on privacy laws and exstortion laws....
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« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2009, 12:29:07 PM »

All these skwerls are freakin' me out man.  :uhuh:
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All these skwerls are freakin' me out man.  :uhuh:


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Re: Extortion or Free Enterprise?
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2009, 10:48:47 PM »

It's so sad and sick. I understand it may not be a crime, but there should be some kind of say though, if there's a dead family member's pictures whether they are published or not. This is for any human not just a celebrity.
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Re: Extortion or Free Enterprise?
« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2009, 12:41:57 PM »

What kind of sick fuck takes pictures of a dead kid anyway? :uhuh:
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Re: Extortion or Free Enterprise?
« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2009, 03:12:15 PM »

What kind of sick fuck takes pictures of a dead kid anyway? :uhuh:

An ambulance driver in a third world country? Turns out that the item in question may not be a picture after all but simply some kind of release form stating the ambulance company wasnt liable if Travolta took the kid to Florida instead of to the Bahamian hospital like he supposedly wanted to do.

I dont understand what the big deal is. Even if it was a pic, as long as it wasnt stolen from Tavolta or something that belonged to him, they should have a right to do with it as they please including profit from it. If they dont want this to happen then they should pass a law that says ambulance drivers arent allowed to sell documents or take pictures of patients.
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Re: Extortion or Free Enterprise?
« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2009, 05:26:24 PM »

for some reason the fact that it was only a document makes the whole situation a non issue for me. i think my only problem with the whole picture thing is that nobody should have to see their dead child on the cover of some rag. it's just wrong.

 
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Re: Extortion or Free Enterprise?
« Reply #19 on: January 31, 2009, 05:43:42 PM »

for some reason the fact that it was only a document makes the whole situation a non issue for me. i think my only problem with the whole picture thing is that nobody should have to see their dead child on the cover of some rag. it's just wrong.

What if he were still alive as he was being carted into the ambulance? Would that make a difference? What if it was in a hotel lobby where the kid had the seizure right when a group of Japanese tourist with 3 cameras each were passing by and they snapped hundreds of photos? Would you throw them in jail if any of them want to sell their pics to a commercial media outlet which makes a living from publishing personal details about "stars"?
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