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« on: March 05, 2009, 12:06:27 AM »

Before it gets taken off the net. A TV interview between Muslims and a sane person...spread it to as many groups as you can.


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« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2009, 12:49:29 AM »



i.e., fuck dat shit.
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« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2009, 01:25:28 AM »

For future reference, we dont just repost stuff here without comment a la twap. Especially with a "spread this around to as many places as possible" tag. That is spam per se.

If you are going to repost part of an article or video, at least make some kind of point about it.
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« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2009, 01:46:22 AM »

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« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2009, 02:59:40 AM »

For future reference, we dont just repost stuff here without comment a la twap. Especially with a "spread this around to as many places as possible" tag. That is spam per se.

If you are going to repost part of an article or video, at least make some kind of point about it.

Up yours freak!

good bye!
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« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2009, 01:56:33 PM »



good bye!


We can only hope she really meant this
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« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2009, 04:12:45 PM »

Up yours freak!

good bye!

Don't go away mad....just go the fuck away!   :hammer:
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« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2009, 05:30:21 AM »

This woman is brilliant...Wafa Sultan...She needs more air time....


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« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2009, 08:04:37 AM »

Speaking of air.  Stop using it
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« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2009, 03:56:30 PM »

Well said, Peter.
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« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2009, 04:04:52 PM »

"muslims need to re-examine their books"

I disagree...islam is a peaceful  religion that values tolerance and hard work. It values the creation of community and the acceptance of all.

SOME people need to stop hiding behind religion....and EVERY religion has been guilty of using it to persecute fellow humans.
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« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2009, 04:07:22 PM »

Before it gets taken off the net. A TV interview between Muslims and a sane person...spread it to as many groups as you can.


http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm.asp?ai=214&ar=1050wmv&ak=


You consider yourself able to judge sanity?

An extensive experience of one side of the mental health system...doesn't actually qualify you to pass judgment from the other

(trust me...smart people will actually get that)
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« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2009, 07:24:49 PM »

Hahaha, three comedians…  :vc:
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« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2009, 07:26:05 PM »

Mrs C huh?....

Yeah sure....like I really believe you're a female...

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« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2009, 08:27:22 PM »

I have to admire this woman Wafa Sultan. I have never seen bravery like that in my lifetime...she doesn't attack anonymously from behind a computer screen like the wimps that post on message boards do....she is out there. Her face is out there and she is challenging them. I found the transcripts [in part] for lazy people who don't listen to the youtube..


The clash we are witnessing around the world is not a clash of religions, or a clash of civilizations. It is a clash between two opposites, between two eras. It is a clash between a mentality that belongs to the Middle Ages and another mentality that belongs to the 21st century. It is a clash between civilization and backwardness, between the civilized and the primitive, between barbarity and rationality. It is a clash between freedom and oppression, between democracy and dictatorship. It is a clash between human rights, on the one hand, and the violation of these rights, on other hand. It is a clash between those who treat women like beasts, and those who treat them like human beings. What we see today is not a clash of civilizations. Civilizations do not clash, but compete.

This is the part that is the most important…..

Wafa Sultan - I am not a Christian, a Muslim or a Jew. I am a secular human being.

I do not believe in the supernatural, but I respect other people rights to believe in it.


Islam Cleric - Are you a heretic?

Wafa Sultan - You can say whatever you like. I am a secular human being whose doesn’t believe in the supernatural.

Islam Cleric - If you are a heretic there is no point in rebuking you since you have blasphemed against Islam, the Prophet and the Koran.

Wafa Sultan - These are personal matters that do not concern you..

Brother, you can believe in stones as long as you don’t throw them at me. You are free to worship whoever you want, but other peoples beliefs are not your concern. Whether they believe that the Messiah is God, son of Mary or that Satan is God, son of Mary. Let people have their beliefs.



The Jews have come from the tragedy (of the Holocaust), and forced the world to respect them, with their knowledge, not with their terror, with their work, not their crying and yelling. Humanity owes most of
the discoveries and science of the 19th and 20th centuries to Jewish scientists. 15 million people, scattered throughout the world, united and won their rights through work and knowledge. We have not seen a single Jew blow himself up in a German restaurant. We have not seen a single Jew destroy a church.
We have not seen a single Jew protest by killing people. The Muslims have turned three Buddha statues into rubble. We have not seen a single Buddhist burn down a Mosque, kill a Muslim, or burn down an embassy. Only the Muslims defend their beliefs by burning down churches, killing people, and destroying embassies. This path will not yield any results. The Muslims must ask themselves what they can do for humankind, before they demand that humankind respect them.



http://blogcritics.org/politics/article/wafa-sultan-rebel-heretic-or-outcast/

The part of her speech I like best is that she said she doesn't believe in God but if people want to believe, that is their right basically and that Muslim clerics do not have any rights over what other people think.....of course, that goes for any idealogy, obviously..
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« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2009, 11:29:13 PM »

I think it's about time we start considering fighting Muslim extremism with a hard dose of reality and debate like this lady is doing instead of wasting over a trillion dollars between Britain and the US in wars.

Most if not all of the jihadists are illiterate brainwashed dupes with no education who have heard only one version of reality their entire lives much like in North Korea. They literally take what the mullahs and clerics tell them as gospel and the word of allah and do as they are told without thinking twice about it.

What they are sorely lacking in that society is a voice of reason to present another side of the same religion. They need more people like this lady to at least plant some seeds and make them THINK that maybe what they are doing and being told what to do is not the word of god.

We will NEVER defeat extremism with bombs alone. All that does is ingrain more hatred on us and motivate more jihadist to fight. What we need is a war of words and ideas and prominent Muslims denouncing the extreme views of bin Ladin et al. I guarantee you that if we had spent just $100 billion (a fraction of the cost of the war in Iraq) on propaganda to fight extremism instead of on bombs, we would be much further along then we are now and bin Ladin wouldnt still be at large. The pen is mightier than the sword.




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« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2009, 01:12:56 AM »

You need to actually talk with straight shooters who know the in and outs of this subject....like this guy for instance...

what some people eagerly ignore or are ignorant of is that even so-called "moderates" like Mousavi are not even IN the election unless they too are religious fruitcakes themselves...that candidates are vetted, by, you guessed it, the mullah councils...they wouldnt even approve anyone who was sane and not drunk on Islam to even run..

One question never asked is

WHO ELECTED THE RULING MULLAHS? WHEN DO THEY THEMSELVES FACE THE BALLOT, SINCE THEY THEMSELVES ARE EFFECTIVELY THE RULING GOVERNMENT AUTHORITY AND SUPPOSEDLY ELECTED POSITIONS LIKE JADS ARE TOKEN FIGUREHEADS ANYWAY.
WHEN DO ALL OF THESE AYOTOLLAHS FACE THE BALLOT BOX?
INSTEAD, THEY ACTUALLY DECIDE WHO CAN EVEN RUN, FOR WHAT ARE EFFECTIVELY SHAM PUPPET POSITIONS ANYWAY.
SO ALL THIS BULLSHIT OF RIGGED ELECTIONS, MOUSAVI THE GOOD GUY VS JAD THE CROSS-EYED BAD GUY, ALL IT IS IS HIMLER ,  GOERING  OR RHEINHARDT HEYDRICH VS HITLER ANYWAY.

IN FACT, ITS LESS MEANINGFUL THAN THAT WOULD BE...BECAUSE UNLIKE HITLER THEY ARE ONLY IN TOKEN SYMBOLIC POSITION ANYWAY...
AND YOU CANT EVEN RUN UNLESS YOU ARE AS DEMENTED AS THEY ARE.   
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Re: Quick, Quick, Watch this
« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2009, 06:46:19 AM »

They need more people like this lady to at least plant some seeds and make them THINK that maybe what they are doing and being told what to do is not the word of god.


They do indeed, except Wafa Sultan is now the subject of a fatwah......she is on their hit list...

can you imagine if Obama went around calling for heads to be lopped?

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Re: Quick, Quick, Watch this
« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2009, 08:23:14 AM »

You consider yourself able to judge sanity?

An extensive experience of one side of the mental health system...doesn't actually qualify you to pass judgment from the other

(trust me...smart people will actually get that)

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