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IRA Resurgence?
« on: March 08, 2009, 12:47:00 PM »

Gunmen Target U.K. Base in Northern Ireland
Two Killed in Attack; U.K. Prime Minister Says Event Will Not Deter Peace Process

By Mary Jordan
Washington Post Foreign Service
Sunday, March 8, 2009; 10:28 AM

LONDON, March 8 -- Prime Minister Gordon Brown said Sunday an attack on a British army base in Northern Ireland that killed two soldiers would not derail the peace process in the long-troubled province. Gunmen fired on an army base in Country Antrim, 16 miles north of Belfast Saturday night. The victims were the first British soldiers to be killed in Northern Ireland since 1997. No one has claimed responsibility, although suspicion immediately fell on dissident Irish republicans.

Just days ago, Northern Ireland's Chief Constable, Hugh Orde, warned that threats from renegade republican paramilitaries were at the highest in years. A 1998 peace accord known as the Good Friday agreement largely ended the sectarian violence responsible for the deaths of more than 3,600 people since 1969.

Dissident Irish republican groups have never agreed to the joint power sharing agreement between Catholics and Protestants and continue to fight for an end to British rule on the island. Even after the Irish Republican Army renounced violence and decommissioned its weapons, renegade republicans have continued to threaten peace.

Around 9:20 p.m. Saturday, as pizza was being delivered to the Massereene army base, drive-by gunmen opened fire, killing two and wounding four, according to police statements and Irish news reports. Police said two of the wounded were civilians, apparently the youths delivering the pizza. "No murderer will be able to derail a peace process that has the support of the vast majority of the people of Northern Ireland and we will step up our efforts to make the peace process one that lasts and endures," Brown said on Sunday. Northern Ireland Secretary Shaun Woodward called the shootings "an act of criminal barbarism."

The Irish nationalist party Sinn Fein denounced the "wrong and counterproductive" act. "Their intention is to bring British soldiers back onto the streets. They want to destroy the progress of recent times and to plunge Ireland back into conflict," Sinn Fein President Gerry Adams said in a statement

Dissident republicans were blamed last year for attempts to kill police officers in separate incidents in Derry City and Dungannon, in County Tyrone. Security forces last month defused a 300 pound bomb in Castlewellan, in County Down, close to an army barracks.

Ian Paisley Jr., a member of the Democratic Unionist Party and son of the famous Protestant clergyman who founded that party, said, "For the last 10 years, people believed things like this happened in foreign countries. . . . Unfortunately it has now returned to our doorstep."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/08/AR2009030800418.html



It disconcerting as the human race to see that no matter what, someone out there is hell bent on attacking and killing others and starting wars based on little more than religious or cultural differences. Our scientific technology may greatly advanced in the past 1000 years but our dna still has a lot of evolving and catching up to do. :sad:


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Re: IRA Resurgence?
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2009, 03:05:12 PM »

based on little more than religious or cultural differences

It goes way deeper than that. There were atrocities committed by the British a long time ago. There are those that still hang onto the fact there was no surrender nor was there a victory or truce back then. The hard core believe that they are still at war with the British today.

You know they get the bulk of their funding from the USA
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« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2009, 04:54:52 PM »

You know they get the bulk of their funding from the USA


I wouldn't have minded being in a Boston bar on 9/11.

It won't kick off again, no fucking way, not unless the politicians fuck things right up.  Many of the "old boys" are councellors and local politicians now and you can bet your last pint of Guiness that right now fuckers are being hunted down for a spot of kneecap action  :wheelchair:
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« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2009, 05:38:45 PM »

I lived in Belfast for nearly 6 years and still have a lot of good freinds over there so i was pretty pissed off to see all about this latest fuck up, but after speaking to a few people today it would appear that's all it is, a fuck up. Nobody over there is in the least bit worried that this means a return to old ways and the talk about troops back on the streets is merely scaremongering of the highest order. Of course the idiots who carried out this little "action" are extremists but only like those which exist in every other country in the world and they no more have the power to bring down the peace process than i do to make my business rates proportionate to the value of my premesis not a figment of some small minded fuckin little Hitler at the County Council's idea of the vast profit margins i work with!!!!! (Guess who opened his business rates demand earlier today??)  :hammer: :hammer:
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Re: IRA Resurgence?
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2009, 05:59:52 PM »

based on little more than religious or cultural differences

It goes way deeper than that. There were atrocities committed by the British a long time ago. There are those that still hang onto the fact there was no surrender nor was there a victory or truce back then. The hard core believe that they are still at war with the British today.

You know they get the bulk of their funding from the USA

Maybe so but that's all old crap from the past. Why would anyone want to go around digging that up and try to start a conflict that benefits no one when things have been relatively peaceful for the past 10 years? Senseless.

It's a lot like the Israeli - Palestinian question. Each side keeps provoking and inciting more violence instead of working towards a lasting solution. Hopefully these people in Northern Ireland will have more sense then them and turn in whoever was responsible. At least Gerry Adams came out and publicly condemned the actions instead of saying something like the blood of your British occupier sons and daughters will soon fill the streets at the hands of our brave martyrs and liberators.
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« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2009, 06:29:40 PM »

The troubles in Northern Ireland haven't been about religious issues or even political issues for a long time now. It's quite simply about control of money and criminal activity ie: drugs. Everybody there knows that and that's why there's no hope of a full escalation of the troubles. People aren't that dumb and since the real scary heirarchy has been disbanded the general populace ain't gonna put up with all that shit anymore. There's far too many people with money invested in peace nowadays to return to the old ways of violence and corruption. The idiots who perpetrated this latest attack will be scared to death at the moment because they'll have upset a few very naughty people and they'll be expecting a knock on the door from "Billy The Bat" any minute now.  :wink:
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« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2009, 07:02:23 PM »

Just heard on the news there's been another copper shot in Craigavon (just outside Belfast). There's gonna be a few knee caps shattered this week that's for sure.
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« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2009, 08:07:54 PM »

Excuse me for being naive, but why the fuck doesn't the UK give the fucking thing back.  It's part the Ireland goddamn island anyway, and I thought you blokes gave up the colony bullshit a while back.  Just looks too weird to have this little part of Ireland being owned by the Brits.
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« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2009, 10:35:53 PM »

Not only N. Ireland but what the fuck is up with the Isle of Man? Are they independent or not? What's that all about? I always thought that the Bee Gees were Brits.
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« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2009, 05:05:37 AM »

Excuse me for being naive, but why the fuck doesn't the UK give the fucking thing back.  It's part the Ireland goddamn island anyway, and I thought you blokes gave up the colony bullshit a while back.  Just looks too weird to have this little part of Ireland being owned by the Brits.



Oh fuck !  Where to start ?!?!?  What a fucking fruit salad......

Centuries ago when Ireland was "owned" by England thousands of Protestant Scottish farmers settle in the North of Catholic Ireland today known as the 6 counties...add a pinch of inter christian hatred and a backs against the wall mentality from the Protestants...chuck in Oliver Cromwell marching an army around the joint slaughtering feinians http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cromwellian_conquest_of_Ireland ...mix it with constant Irish rebellion and alignment against England with pretender Catholic monarchs and a good old barney at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Boyne ...then whisk up eventual Irish independence http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_War_of_Independence but leave a nasty side salad deal where the majority Protestant 6 counties remain part of Britain / the United Kingdom.

What was left was a seething mess of hatred.  Since 1921 the Protestants treated the minority Catholics like shit, worst jobs, no places in the police force, arbitrary discrimination, complete segregation and mums and dads teaching kids that the other lot are complete cunts.  It all blew up in the '70s as it was bound to with the IRA reforming, the British army being sent in and fuckers getting bombed mostly funded by plastic paddies in Boston and New York.

There will never be a united Ireland because the Protestants won't have it and there will never be complete peace because the cunts fucking hate each other and the whole thing essentially stopped being a British colonial thing when the first boat load of Proddies showed up, its purely British Isles tribal bullshit with C4 and armalite rifles whereas the rest of us settle for beating each other up at football matches.








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Re: IRA Resurgence?
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2009, 12:53:44 PM »

Is it true they take a drill and drill holes into people's kneecaps?
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Re: IRA Resurgence?
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2009, 02:11:19 PM »

Is it true they take a drill and drill holes into people's kneecaps?


Only for first offences  :wheelchair:
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Re: IRA Resurgence?
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2009, 04:13:29 PM »

Is it true they take a drill and drill holes into people's kneecaps?

They normally prefer to shoot you with a pistol through the back of the knee causing the most damage possible............... That's after they've given you a good whuppin with baseball bats.

Lovely fellas, but guess what? The little fuckers very seldom re-offend.  :wink:
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Re: IRA Resurgence?
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2009, 11:38:54 PM »

Fair play to the lad.... http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/soldier-saved-life-of-pizza-boy-by-shielding-him-from-hail-of-bullets-1641407.html


That's strange??? I can't see Irish pizzas being very good... If my pizza isn't delivered in time due to gunplay does that mean I get it free?
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