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VEGAS SHOOTING COVERAGE
« on: October 02, 2017, 05:05:12 AM »

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I suspect that the three x-men between them couldn't handle even OBI in a match.
That would be interesting - Obi vs. Oranje, LoCo and Duke.

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Re: VEGAS SHOOTING COVERAGE
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2017, 05:05:44 AM »

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I suspect that the three x-men between them couldn't handle even OBI in a match.
That would be interesting - Obi vs. Oranje, LoCo and Duke.

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Re: VEGAS SHOOTING COVERAGE
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2017, 05:06:37 AM »

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I suspect that the three x-men between them couldn't handle even OBI in a match.
That would be interesting - Obi vs. Oranje, LoCo and Duke.

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Re: VEGAS SHOOTING COVERAGE
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I suspect that the three x-men between them couldn't handle even OBI in a match.
That would be interesting - Obi vs. Oranje, LoCo and Duke.

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I suspect that the three x-men between them couldn't handle even OBI in a match.
That would be interesting - Obi vs. Oranje, LoCo and Duke.

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Re: VEGAS SHOOTING COVERAGE
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2017, 02:11:45 PM »

He isn’t a Muslim.

His father was a bank robber.
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Re: VEGAS SHOOTING COVERAGE
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2017, 02:14:16 PM »

ANTIFA and muslim convert.

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naw...he was a nut job. Simple as that.
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That would be interesting - Obi vs. Oranje, LoCo and Duke.

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Re: VEGAS SHOOTING COVERAGE
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2017, 02:28:31 PM »

Well it's one way to get someone to turn the volume down I guess.
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« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2017, 04:32:50 PM »

naw...he was a nut job. Simple as that.

Maybe so. Here's what we know so far:

- He moved from Florida to Nevada and was not a 'gun guy' according to his brother. Dumbfounded reporters who talked to him ad nauseam inexplicably failed to ask him if he had any strong political or religious beliefs.

- He lived with a Philippian lady who is described as his gf and she was away out of the country leaving him to his own devices

- Reports after serving a search warrant on his home are that nothing obviously unusual turned up

- He was going through a divorce (which has made countless people commit homicide)

- He liked to gamble in the casinos (which has made countless of ppl commit suicide after they've lost their life savings)

- He targeted a country music festival which was likely teeming with a white, pro-Trump crowd

My guess is that one or more of these factors drove his motives. Possibly another hopeless loser who was pwnd by life (divorce/gambling) and decided to exit it and take a bunch of Trump voters with him (if in fact he was an exasperated Trump hater). That's my preliminary hypothesis.

The part about him not being a gun guy seems to be peculiar considering the circumstances including the automatic weapons so anything the brother said needs to be verified.
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Re: VEGAS SHOOTING COVERAGE
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2017, 04:42:31 PM »

Maybe so. Here's what we know so far:

- He moved from Florida to Nevada and was not a 'gun guy' according to his brother. Dumbfounded reporters who talked to him ad nauseam inexplicably failed to ask him if he had any strong political or religious beliefs.

- He lived with a Philippian lady who is described as his gf and she was away out of the country leaving him to his own devices

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- He was going through a divorce (which has made countless people commit homicide)

- He liked to gamble in the casinos (which has made countless of ppl commit suicide after they've lost their life savings)

- He targeted a country music festival which was likely teeming with a white, pro-Trump crowd

My guess is that one or more of these factors drove his motives. Possibly another hopeless loser who was pwnd by life (divorce/gambling) and decided to exit it and take a bunch of Trump voters with him (if in fact he was an exasperated Trump hater). That's my preliminary hypothesis.

The part about him not being a gun guy seems to be peculiar considering the circumstances including the automatic weapons so anything the brother said needs to be verified.

He's alleged to have gambled daily amounts in excess of 20k and 30k in the weeks prior, as well.

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Re: VEGAS SHOOTING COVERAGE
« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2017, 05:04:14 PM »

CBS fires vice president who said Vegas victims didn't deserve sympathy because country music fans 'often are Republican'

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Re: VEGAS SHOOTING COVERAGE
« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2017, 05:57:36 PM »

CBS fires vice president who said Vegas victims didn't deserve sympathy because country music fans 'often are Republican'

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Political correctness bites a dem on the ass? She should have kept her mouth shut. Pretty sure there were people of many political persuasions present at the gig.

I saw a comment in one of those video feeds to the effect of "imagine how many lives might have been saved if the gig had been open carry". I'm scratching my head at that one, visions of aggro country music lovers firing indiscriminately at the building. Pure fucking madness, I wouldn't have wanted have been within a mile of the place if that shit had gone down.
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Re: VEGAS SHOOTING COVERAGE
« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2017, 06:38:41 PM »

His father was a bank robber.


The FBI wanted poster from 1969 noted he was a psychopath with suicidal tendencies (who also enjoyed gambling). Seems like at least one of his kids lived up to that description.



Niece notes that he did not have noteworthy religious or political beliefs (that she knew about)..



Why would he target this country music concert?

A) He really hated country music and/or got tired of the noise they were making

B) The audience tended to be Trump supporters and he was an unhinged Trump hater (like the Bernie Bro who blasted the Repubs playing baseball a few months ago)

C) He was a homicidal/suicidal mad at the world crazy dude and it so happened that this event caught his attention to leave his mark

D) None of the above

The evidence tending to show excessive planning leads me to something along the lines of choice B.

Supposedly he had a pilot's license which requires a physical and mental examination so that tends to diminishes the notion that he was an outright fucknut (and choice C).

None of the above would include assertions like he was an ISIS sympathizer for which there is absolutely no evidence thus far, according to the Clark County Sheriff himself.
 
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Re: VEGAS SHOOTING COVERAGE
« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2017, 07:28:54 PM »

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Re: VEGAS SHOOTING COVERAGE
« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2017, 08:11:52 PM »

Motive doesn't really matter at this point, the deed is done and he's no longer breathing. I am however surprised that it's taken this long for someone to work around to mass murder at a music festival in the US though, I was sure we'd have seen this sort of shit long before this. Now that particular cat's out of the bag I predict it won't be long before copycats strike.

I wonder how many years there are left before someone takes it into their heads to target the Superbowl.
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Re: VEGAS SHOOTING COVERAGE
« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2017, 08:59:12 PM »

because country music fans 'often are Republican'


"republican gun toters" [sic]




Highly insensitive and ill-advised for a person in her position to publicly state on FB but completely defensible as to substance.

The same type of people who blindly and foolishly support the NRA and block proposed firearm control laws to even prevent mentally incompetent people from buying firearms now can offer nothing but prayers (ie, nothing) to their follow citizens who got smoked by someone exercising their 2nd Amendment rights, as the current White House occupier would say.

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« Reply #17 on: October 02, 2017, 09:48:34 PM »

I suspect his goal was bigger than his immediate victims...

By gunning down a high number of beer and whiskey drinking country music types who are likely to be staunch second amendment advocates and more conservative or libertarian minded, the gunman in effect has shot the nation closer to civil war either because of his possible disdain for his victims and or because he's drawn to chaos and strife.

At any rate, technology and better zoning could have prevented this from happening. I have no doubt that high rise buildings could incorporate  something which detects discharged firearms by air quality or that large events could be guarded by a number of snipers.

Gun control won't fix these types of occurrences and gun control is a huge moral hazard which would alternatively sentence defenseless victims to death, injury, or loss in instances of home invasions, single story events (ie. Without high ground or huge distance), and general assaults where people are not able to stop armed assailants because of kneejerk bans.

It's also a major check and balance to government overreach and foreign invasion.

The lunatic shouldn't be rewarded twice for his deeds.

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Re: VEGAS SHOOTING COVERAGE
« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2017, 12:11:03 AM »

Gun control won't fix these types of occurrences and gun control is a huge moral hazard which would alternatively sentence defenseless victims to death, injury, or loss in instances of home invasions, single story events (ie. Without high ground or huge distance), and general assaults where people are not able to stop armed assailants because of kneejerk bans.

That's not gun control, that's a firearms ban which no one of public policy prominence has seriously proposed despite NRA and right wing propaganda suggesting the contrary.

Gun control laws would be things such as barring people adjudged mentally incompetent and those on terror watch lists from obtaining firearms.

Reasonable restrictions on gun ownership just like is placed on every other right contained in the Bill of Rights. They have no problems restricting the right to abortion to the point of almost abolishing it, maybe that's why they take a shit whenever the topic of gun control comes up after every mass shooting.
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Re: VEGAS SHOOTING COVERAGE
« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2017, 12:33:44 AM »

No means no, Bra1n. No government intereference permitted on this.

Accept it and move on or somewhere else.
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