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Liberal Water
« on: January 04, 2018, 08:33:21 PM »

High-profile Bay Area denizens are skipping tap water in favor of drinking unfiltered, untreated, and expensive “raw” water that comes straight out of the ground, Nellie Bowles reports for The New York Times. Proponents claim that raw water’s health benefits include naturally occurring minerals and microbes. But the reality for any inadequately treated water from the tap or a spring is that those minerals can sometimes include arsenic, and those microbes can be deadly.

The trend is borne of distrust for the public water supply, Bowles writes — including the disinfection processes the water undergoes, the fluoride that’s sometimes added to it, and the lead pipes that might carry it. But adding fluoride prevents tooth decay. (“There is no scientific evidence that fluoride is a mind-control drug, but plenty to show that it aids dental health,” Bowles writes.) And disinfecting water is key for preventing the spread of dangerous viruses, bacteria, and parasites.

In fact, civilizations have been trying to clean up their water supplies for millennia. As early as 1500 BCE, the ancient Egyptians are said to have clarified cloudy water using techniques similar to ones we use today, according to a report from the Environmental Protection Agency. “Sanskrit and Greek writings recommended water treatment methods such as filtering through charcoal, exposing to sunlight, boiling, and straining,” the report says.

At the turn of the 20th century, public water utilities in the US started focusing on removing dangerous, disease-causing microbes from water — turning to chlorine disinfection for the first time in 1908. The disinfection effort has drastically reduced cases of deadly diarrheal diseases like typhoid and cholera that spread via contaminated water, which the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention calls “one of the greatest public health achievements of the 20th century.”

It’s not just city water supplies that need to be treated. Water that springs up in the apparently pristine wilderness can also make you sick — in part because animals poop. “While the water flowing in the streams and rivers of the backcountry may look pure, it can still be contaminated with bacteria, viruses, parasites, and other contaminants,” the CDC warns. That’s why the agency recommends that backpackers boil water for between one and three minutes. If that’s not possible, the next best option is both chemically treating and filtering the water.
"Water that springs up in the apparently pristine wilderness can also make you sick"

Groundwater wells — the ultimate in off-the-grid water that roughly 15 million households in the US rely on — also need to be routinely tested for safety. Chemicals like arsenic, metals like uranium, or contaminants from agricultural activities like nitrates can leach into the groundwater that supplies both wells and springs. Even rainwater — which is a great for your garden — is less safe for drinking unless it’s been treated, the CDC says. Animal feces, chemicals in air pollution or in roofing materials and gutters, and insect larvae can all swim around in rain barrels.

Now, it’s true that there are problems with public drinking water: the lead poisoning of Flint, Michigan’s children is a devastating example that drew attention to the alarming extent of lead pipes in the US. Scientists have detected low levels of pharmaceuticals in water supplies, although it’s not clear exactly what that means for public health. And inadequately treated water may sometimes contain risky levels of arsenic and hexavalent chromium, the potentially cancer-causing chemical that Erin Brockovich made famous.

But the answer isn’t, as the New York Times’ Kendra Pierre-Louis tweets, for the wealthy, worried well to just opt out of the public water supply. Nor is it for them leap into the arms of another poorly-regulated, money-making scheme that could make them sick (see: workout supplements). Instead the answer is to continue to push public officials, water utilities, and industry to ensure that our water infrastructure supplies water that is safe for everyone — and to insist that these sectors face the consequences when they fail.


DRINK IT ALL UP LIBS!  :snick:
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Re: Liberal Water
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2018, 09:42:07 AM »

News said its going for $61/gal.  LOL

Moar PC liberal bullshit.

That should make the water outta my well preshus.
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Re: Liberal Water
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2018, 12:38:48 PM »

News said its going for $61/gal.  LOL

Moar PC liberal bullshit.

That should make the water outta my well preshus.

YUO know what they say louie, a libiot and "its" money are soon parted!!!  :snick:
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Re: Liberal Water
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2018, 08:08:31 AM »

High-profile Bay Area denizens are skipping tap water in favor of drinking unfiltered, untreated, and expensive “raw” water that comes straight out of the ground, Nellie Bowles reports for The New York Times. Proponents claim that raw water’s health benefits include naturally occurring minerals and microbes. But the reality for any inadequately treated water from the tap or a spring is that those minerals can sometimes include arsenic, and those microbes can be deadly.

The trend is borne of distrust for the public water supply, Bowles writes — including the disinfection processes the water undergoes, the fluoride that’s sometimes added to it, and the lead pipes that might carry it. But adding fluoride prevents tooth decay. (“There is no scientific evidence that fluoride is a mind-control drug, but plenty to show that it aids dental health,” Bowles writes.) And disinfecting water is key for preventing the spread of dangerous viruses, bacteria, and parasites.

In fact, civilizations have been trying to clean up their water supplies for millennia. As early as 1500 BCE, the ancient Egyptians are said to have clarified cloudy water using techniques similar to ones we use today, according to a report from the Environmental Protection Agency. “Sanskrit and Greek writings recommended water treatment methods such as filtering through charcoal, exposing to sunlight, boiling, and straining,” the report says.

At the turn of the 20th century, public water utilities in the US started focusing on removing dangerous, disease-causing microbes from water — turning to chlorine disinfection for the first time in 1908. The disinfection effort has drastically reduced cases of deadly diarrheal diseases like typhoid and cholera that spread via contaminated water, which the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention calls “one of the greatest public health achievements of the 20th century.”

It’s not just city water supplies that need to be treated. Water that springs up in the apparently pristine wilderness can also make you sick — in part because animals poop. “While the water flowing in the streams and rivers of the backcountry may look pure, it can still be contaminated with bacteria, viruses, parasites, and other contaminants,” the CDC warns. That’s why the agency recommends that backpackers boil water for between one and three minutes. If that’s not possible, the next best option is both chemically treating and filtering the water.
"Water that springs up in the apparently pristine wilderness can also make you sick"

Groundwater wells — the ultimate in off-the-grid water that roughly 15 million households in the US rely on — also need to be routinely tested for safety. Chemicals like arsenic, metals like uranium, or contaminants from agricultural activities like nitrates can leach into the groundwater that supplies both wells and springs. Even rainwater — which is a great for your garden — is less safe for drinking unless it’s been treated, the CDC says. Animal feces, chemicals in air pollution or in roofing materials and gutters, and insect larvae can all swim around in rain barrels.

Now, it’s true that there are problems with public drinking water: the lead poisoning of Flint, Michigan’s children is a devastating example that drew attention to the alarming extent of lead pipes in the US. Scientists have detected low levels of pharmaceuticals in water supplies, although it’s not clear exactly what that means for public health. And inadequately treated water may sometimes contain risky levels of arsenic and hexavalent chromium, the potentially cancer-causing chemical that Erin Brockovich made famous.

But the answer isn’t, as the New York Times’ Kendra Pierre-Louis tweets, for the wealthy, worried well to just opt out of the public water supply. Nor is it for them leap into the arms of another poorly-regulated, money-making scheme that could make them sick (see: workout supplements). Instead the answer is to continue to push public officials, water utilities, and industry to ensure that our water infrastructure supplies water that is safe for everyone — and to insist that these sectors face the consequences when they fail.


DRINK IT ALL UP LIBS!  :snick:


Instead of copy and paste lokjaw..

I would like to read your personal take on the above.

 :snack: ...and go.
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Re: Liberal Water
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2018, 12:09:07 PM »


Instead of copy and paste lokjaw..

I would like to read your personal take on the above.

 :snack: ...and go.

I'm all for libs killing themselves. Sadly, I fear the goobermints will step in and force them to save themselves. Its an internal battle of liberalism. You cunts eat each other when not preoccupied eating CONservatives.
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Re: Liberal Water
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2018, 05:36:52 AM »

Here in Australia, the main contenders in Government are the Liberal Party and the Labour Party.

Then there are the parties who " hang on in hope " with getting seats in the parliament.

I have always been in favour of the Labour Party.

- just sayin
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Re: Liberal Water
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2018, 02:35:53 PM »



I have always been in favour of the Labour Party.

- just sayin

Translation: You're a socialist piece of shit. It aint like we didnt already know it!  BTW, that party espouses the EXACT same political view as the NAZI Party did.
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Re: Liberal Water
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2018, 07:08:44 PM »

The OP MUST have been cut & pasted with a sprinkling of trollbait words.

I deduce this by the complete ease with which Feral derailed your train, ya schmuck.

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Re: Liberal Water
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2018, 08:39:58 PM »

The OP MUST have been cut & pasted with a sprinkling of trollbait words.

I deduce this by the complete ease with which Feral derailed your train, ya schmuck.

Dear dumb fuck, welcome to the world of being wrong. I didnt sprinkle jack shit in it.

Looks like your entire meme derailed before it even got on the track.

Seriously, you ignorant fuckers are fucking up even more than usual. I think its from lokmar derangement syndrome! PWN3D!
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Re: Liberal Water
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2018, 09:14:08 PM »

People are fucking stupid, I swear

Wanna pristine water? Try reverse osmosis

If you want it taste it good, pass it thru a mineralization filter

This is just another liberal gimmick

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Re: Liberal Water
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2018, 08:20:44 AM »

People are fucking stupid, I swear

Wanna pristine water? Try reverse osmosis

If you want it taste it good, pass it thru a mineralization filter

This is just another liberal gimmick

Its cause they gotta be against something constantly, just for arguments sake. If you gave the idiots everything they wanted, they'd be against it all within a week! :snick:
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Re: Liberal Water
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2018, 02:07:10 PM »

Fluoride is nasty shit. It's meant to strengthen bones but anyone who has actually worked with the shit knows a splash of concentrate is enough to turn a limb into putty. The flesh remains somewhat intact but the compound disintegrates the bones inside and gets into the bloodstream resulting in certain death unless specially made antidotes are administered within minutes.

But hey.... experts say it's safe! Oh, "it's not that particular kind of fluoride!"

Great for rat poison, great for teeth!  :snick:
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Re: Liberal Water
« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2018, 11:40:43 PM »

Looks like your entire meme derailed before it even got on the track.
Um...I don't have a meme unless you count the simile I used which you are now parroting while you say it failed.   :snick:

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Re: Liberal Water
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2018, 12:03:54 AM »

Um...I don't have a meme unless you count the simile I used which you are now parroting while you say it failed.   :snick:
Yes, you have it.  Fortunately it's not life threatening, even though it renders you a waste of time to read.
Sorry cunt. You lost already.
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Re: Liberal Water
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2018, 05:42:26 AM »

Translation: You're a socialist piece of shit. It aint like we didnt already know it!  BTW, that party espouses the EXACT same political view as the NAZI Party did.


Don't even bother fool.

Clearly you know nothing about the Labour Party in Australia.

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Re: Liberal Water
« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2018, 10:02:57 AM »

Sorry cunt. You lost already.

Let's leave that judgment to the casual unbiased reader, eh.

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Re: Liberal Water
« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2018, 10:56:48 PM »

Let's leave that judgment to the casual unbiased reader, eh.

They said youre a fukin idiot.
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Re: Liberal Water
« Reply #17 on: January 10, 2018, 06:19:56 AM »

lokjaw always goes into his usual MO spin " you're a fucking idiot " when he has no other comeback..

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Re: Liberal Water
« Reply #18 on: January 10, 2018, 11:11:30 PM »

People are fucking stupid, I swear

Wanna pristine water? Try reverse osmosis

If you want it taste it good, pass it thru a mineralization filter

This is just another liberal gimmick
I'll settle for a 1 micron activated carbon and resin filter. Full RO units are fiddly bastards to maintain and are really only beneficial for people with underlying medical conditions that require it (ie: kidney failure).


I'll never forget the first glass of unfiltered tap water I drank after switching to point of consumption filtering... slimy, gritty garbage that the city had deemed a-ok for human consumption. This was the exact same stuff I'd been drinking less than 12 months earlier, I simply hadn't noticed because like most other people, I was so used to how it tasted that I never noticed a taste at all... until I'd had the opportunity to consume and cook with water that had had a large amount of those impurities stripped out.


What a lot of consumers fail to realise is the body is effectively the "final filter" that the "glass of water" gets to go through. Arguments about whether you're pumping it from a well or drawing it through mile after mile of even the best maintained city-sponsored pipes, that stuff arriving at your tap is going to contain contaminants, only some of which will be expelled by your body. The rest will remain inside you. So if it's health concerns that are driving your choice of water supply, you're wasting your time. Neither a self sourced supply, nor one treated with additives designed to kill off any carbon based lifeforms that might happen to be wriggling about in the city's plumbing is ideal, but if it gives you a boner to alum your own heavily mineralised well rather than let the city decide what chemicals they're happy to complement the sludge they pipe into your homes then by all means... knock yourself out.


I prefer a certain level of filtration and dont mind spending a c-note a year for it. 1 micron filters knock out pretty much all of the particulates and a sizeable whack of the mineral content. Taste, odour and colour of the water is vastly improved. That's why I do it.
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Re: Liberal Water
« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2018, 04:14:44 AM »



Problem solved - invest in a LifeStraw.

http://www.lifestraw.com/
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