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Looks like Europe can't afford it's socialism anymore
« on: May 15, 2018, 04:50:53 PM »



https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-05-15/look-at-what-s-going-to-happen-to-sweden-s-fabled-welfare-state

 

Sweden’s got a major supply and demand problem.

By 2025, its entire workforce is expected to grow by 207,000 people—yet it needs more than that number just to staff its fabled welfare state. The worker shortfall could crimp services and raise labor costs, especially in a political environment less hospitable to immigration.

The mismatch is one of the biggest headaches facing Sweden’s next government. Past precedents don’t bode well. The workforce rose by 488,000 between 2007 and 2017, with less than a third of that increase absorbed by the public sector.

 
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Re: Looks like Europe can't afford it's socialism anymore
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2018, 06:09:27 PM »

After the first world war and before the second, the German government emptied all the billionaires bank accounts.

That will happen again globally. They're gearing up to do just that now.

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Re: Looks like Europe can't afford it's socialism anymore
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2018, 07:50:28 PM »

After the first world war and before the second, the German government emptied all the billionaires bank accounts.

That will happen again globally. They're gearing up to do just that now.

problem with that is the billionaires run all politics these days.
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Re: Looks like Europe can't afford it's socialism anymore
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2018, 07:57:45 PM »

problem with that is the billionaires run all politics these days.

Only in dictatorships, not in democracies.

And money will be stolen electronically...

Wars cost money... they need people's money to continue the wars.

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Re: Looks like Europe can't afford it's socialism anymore
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2018, 09:02:34 PM »

White people would have kids if they werent subject to such high taxation and moral decay.
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Re: Looks like Europe can't afford it's socialism anymore
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2018, 01:16:37 AM »

Only in dictatorships, not in democracies.
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Re: Looks like Europe can't afford it's socialism anymore
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2018, 01:59:15 AM »

^^ Theres a woman who should never be allowed to leave the kitchen let alone vote.
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Re: Looks like Europe can't afford it's socialism anymore
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2018, 01:35:44 AM »

There are too many students, period.  It used to be the cream of the crop that went to university.  Now complete fucking idiots are accepted into university.  And they are in all these fuckin' useless programs - art and social sciences, etc..  I mean, sure, it is useful to have some people in those programs - but we don't need millions of them!

So we have a million of these people learning skills that will make them a good fit for 10000 jobs.  That leaves 990000 useless twits with student debt that they will never be able to pay off because they are not qualified for the decent-paying jobs that actually have openings.  So they have to take a job that pays fuck-all (because that is what their "skills and knowledge" are worth) and then they need social services to pay for everything in their lives because their income can barely pay for debt caused by the education that they got that they will never use.

It seems that everyone that preaches socialism is a fucktarded lazy cunt.  It kinds makes sense that they want free shit.
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Re: Looks like Europe can't afford it's socialism anymore
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2018, 02:36:08 AM »

A better solution would be for places that required such skills to pre-approve hopeful candidates for the position and pay for them to be trained in them. Sure, if someone wants to go into hock to study it for their own sake, then let them... but if Business A decides they want a certain skillset out of Candidates B through E then they contract to pay for the approved university training in return for an agreed upon period of service, much like the military does and enforced as such.


Answers the student debt problem, for the most part it also takes care of the problem of having far too many people wandering about with training that will never be put to good use.
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Re: Looks like Europe can't afford it's socialism anymore
« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2018, 08:58:34 AM »

There are too many students, period.  It used to be the cream of the crop that went to university.  Now complete fucking idiots are accepted into university.  And they are in all these fuckin' useless programs - art and social sciences, etc..  I mean, sure, it is useful to have some people in those programs - but we don't need millions of them!

So we have a million of these people learning skills that will make them a good fit for 10000 jobs.  That leaves 990000 useless twits with student debt that they will never be able to pay off because they are not qualified for the decent-paying jobs that actually have openings.  So they have to take a job that pays fuck-all (because that is what their "skills and knowledge" are worth) and then they need social services to pay for everything in their lives because their income can barely pay for debt caused by the education that they got that they will never use.

It seems that everyone that preaches socialism is a fucktarded lazy cunt.  It kinds makes sense that they want free shit.

As good a summary as I've ever read.

There are a few manual labor jobs that should pay more but they dont. Repair technicians and auto bodymen are two careers that used to pay a decent wage but dont anymore. Its gotten so bad that businesses who need them cant attract employees anymore. I suspect that will right itself soon though due to the rule of supply and demand. Insurance killed the body shop industry. A tech used to make 50% of rate in the 70's. Now its about 25% or less.  To become skilled in either of those, it takes about 5 years of hands on experience and 20 grand in tools. I managed to make about $62K/YR doing it but I had to drive an hour each way for that job and I spent 1.5K/YR in tools on average. Wasnt worth it. $75K would make it much more attractive. The fact that the company I worked for had a tough time finding new quality recruits proves it isnt lucrative enough in todays society. My family owns a car dealership and they cant get help either. I couldnt afford to quit my current job and go help them out.
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