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Happy 10th Anniversary TRF! All good things
« on: October 11, 2018, 10:40:31 PM »

..come to an end.

After a decade of providing an outlet for discussions, discourse and offbeat insult-based entertainment, I have decided to pull the plug on this endeavor.

I would like to thank all of the mods who have volunteered their time over the years to keep TR running smoothly starting from 2008. Not a single mod ever betrayed the trust that I have placed on them and tried to fuck over this forum from the inside. If you know your flame forum history that is something to be proud of.

In particular I thank Obi for his steadfast, thankless devotion to providing what is suppose to be fun diversionary events in order to give our members something beyond the usual monotony to post about, despite getting so much unwarranted shit from the do nothing crowd and hecklers in the peanut gallery. Obi, we may not agree on much (or anything) politically but you will always have my sincere gratitude for your many years of doing your part to make this forum and this community more lively and entertaining. You are a flame community legend in my eyes.

I would also like to give a shoutout to all of those who cared enough to contribute financially over the years in order to help out with the expenses for keeping this place online. That always had the effect of making me feel like the forum was appreciated and worthwhile, at least by some.

I will take away with me many memories and friendships and lasting relationships which I will always treasure. It is because of TR and FC that I am fortunate to have someone like Dani a.k.a. VC, a.k.a. Popt in my corner as my bestie for more than a decade. I can write a book about her online exploits from years gone by, many of which are unknown to everyone except me. Let it be known that if anyone wants to know who I consider the best all-around flame/troll poster, my answer is Veronica Corningstone.

I remember like yesterday both of us brainstorming on IM circa Oct 11th 2008 to come up with a name for a new flame-debate forum which wouldn't be something trite and unoriginal like Flame (fill in the blank) or some derivation of Fight (fill in blank) until she mentioned something which triggered The Third Rail of Politics inside my head. I instantly knew we had a winner.

It's also because of TR that Irma a.k.a feral is intimately involved in my real life today, with an eye towards a future together so for that I am very gratified. TRF brought us together.

Our now 15 year fantasy football league, my friendships and sometimes sad convos with Vix, Cardy and Fate about serious happenings going on in their lives, the countless number of posts which have made me lmao or taught me things or touched me in other ways, none of that would have happened without TRF.

Why pull the plug now?

To be clear, 3.0 was going to be a real thing (ie, not a troll) up until a few days ago. It was my hope that adopting some changes such as post length limits, stamping out blatant trolling, racism, spam and a new focus on topics to flame others over rather than threads about other posters would make the forum more content diverse and readable.

However, being away for some time and coming back here can give you a new perspective. When I come back after several weeks and I am greeted by a basket full of the same witless, recycled smears that has been flung around at various forums for over 10 years, without a shred of humor or wit or entertainment or a new angle attached to it, it's like a bucket of cold water in the face. It's like time stands still and nothing changes. Nothing else is happening in the world to post about besides shit from 2007 sprinkled with some 'faggot' and 'penis' adjectives. That's not what I want to spend my money on to facilitate and support. I can think of many better things to blow money on.

Then I look at the roster of active posters and I ask myself, who am I kidding? I'm counting on a slew of dullards, dimwits and never-has-beens to suddenly change and become Summer of George or BaileyHankins with the encouragement of some new posting rules? It ain't going to happen. A forum where you can only post reaction gifs would be more attractive to me than sorting through these type of shitposts.

That's not to say that I view all posters here as dullards. To those regulars who don't take this seriously and are here for shits and giggles like Fred, Lems, Dion, looney and Torch and a few others including from time to time caskur, I have appreciated your contributions over the years. I have enjoyed caskur's food threads and videos and even her obstinate ways which have lead to some very funny reactions and replies over the years. Every good forum needs a foil or punching bag and caskur played the role better than anyone. It's too bad that she could dish out the smears but in the end she couldn't take them and left.

In addition to the lack of writing talent around to provide quality readable content that doesn't resemble a shoutbox convo by 6th graders, there are too many risks and expenses with running a well-planned forum of this type.

On the financial end, aside from the hosting costs there are expenses related to structuring ownership of the site into offshore shell corporations to insulate individuals from financial and legal exposure. On the legal side, there is considerable risk with copyright trolls and copyright claims. If you own a site and wish to avail yourself of the US statutory copyright safe harbor protections, you have to register an agent with the copyright office and that also can run into $100s each year. Otherwise the very act of allowing a posted image from Getty or other commercial photo company without approval or c&p'ing an article from another site can subject the owner(s) to a lawsuit and personal liability if the forum is not owned by a properly registered and maintained corporate entity with zero assets.

There are also potential pitfalls for both admins and posters in different jurisdictions with the rapidly emerging field of cyber-speech crimes and civil liability. Be very careful who you call a pedo or child pornographer on the internet without the protection of TOS like ours because they can make you have hell to pay.

Your Average Joe forum owner who has no idea about the minefield which they're aimlessly walking through or the counter-measures to protect themselves can just blow past this and ignore it but I am not your average Joe. I have a law degree (worst kept secret but I finally acknowledged it). Thus, I always went the extra mile to try and protect our members, whether from hostile doxxers intent on shutting our forum down in 2011 or from potential issues as a result of legal developments through the years. No need to thank me, I did it out of my principles.

That doesn't even get into the inordinate amount of 'free' time I devote to this diversion and the constant moping, bitching and whining about something being posted which sucks the last remnants of fun out of it.

We have successfully navigated a path through choppy waters for the past 10 years. To my knowledge no similar type of forum which preceded us has left on their own terms. From what I know, all previous forum owners have either failed to pay their bills or fucked things up beyond repair or disappeared from the net without a word or have died. I feel that by going out on my terms, a thank you post and explanation was in order rather than a sudden, permanent 404 Error page. Thus, this thread.

In short, the negatives of keeping this ship afloat far outweigh the positives. The time has come to cut my losses and shut this crap down. The forum will stay online at a minimum through the end of the month and possibly a few more days until the next cycle of hosting fees comes due in November. You have plenty of time to save or delete your PMs and get info to keep in touch with others if you desire and say your goodbyes.

Anticipated Questions

Will I consider allowing someone to take over TRF? No. Anyone interested in a forum to call people faggot in can start their own forum from scratch. It's not that hard. The difficult part is keeping it going and maintaining interest. Not very likely to draw much interest with the type of recycled content like is typically posted here and the lack of creativity coupled with the chorus of whiners who complain loudly and don't do much of anything to make things better but don't let that discourage you all. Nothing would validate my decision more than to stumble upon caskur, flea and Joo still posting threads in some yet created forum about feral being a child pornographer, in 2025.

Will the TRF ff league shut down as well? No. Not as long as posters like Toe and Torch continue to crack me up with their quips and Pickles continues to post his toons and hilariously hype up the 100s of paid subscribers to his hidden Twitch channel which no one can see. Sadly, that's the type of humor and good natured fun which is missing from here.

Some people like to be entertaining, funny and have fun while still trash talking to others while some others like to harass and smear without any shred of humor, wordplay or wit or constantly mope about things like rules or generally complain about everything as though people enjoy reading that. Which one are you?

Will I sell the domain name? Maybe. Make me an offer.

Is this the end of trf forever, a troll or is a change of heart possible? Six months or a year or 5 years from now if nostalgia gets the best of me, who knows. Not likely as I intend to retire the BRA1N screen name as well. It was a sn exclusively for trolling and flaming in a character which eventually morphed more and more into the real me so it has outlived its intended purpose anyways.

All things considered, it was a good run.

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Re: Happy 10th Anniversary TRF! All good things
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2018, 11:37:44 PM »

                       
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Re: Happy 10th Anniversary TRF! All good things
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2018, 11:39:44 PM »

I appreciated the fun times I had here PWN3D!ing the fuck outta all Trump haters! My only "regerts" is that I wont be able to rub Saint Trumps victory in 2020 in everyones face like the obnoxious ass I am. But in all seriousness, thank you.
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Re: Happy 10th Anniversary TRF! All good things
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2018, 11:52:43 PM »

 Thanks for the ride. It was fun while it lasted

Peace, and best of luck to you on all your future endeavors. Including your romantic ones  :borat:
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Re: Happy 10th Anniversary TRF! All good things
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2018, 12:23:27 AM »

In the storied history and ongoing collection of things that have happened this is certainly one of them.
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Re: Happy 10th Anniversary TRF! All good things
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2018, 01:15:58 AM »

B, when I win the FF cash, I’ll take you out to Ruth’s Chris...and leave you with the bill.
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Re: Happy 10th Anniversary TRF! All good things
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2018, 02:23:42 AM »

Birthday wishes do come true  :grin:
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Re: Happy 10th Anniversary TRF! All good things
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2018, 03:29:30 AM »

..come to an end.

After a decade of providing an outlet for discussions, discourse and offbeat insult-based entertainment, I have decided to pull the plug on this endeavor.

I would like to thank all of the mods who have volunteered their time over the years to keep TR running smoothly starting from 2008. Not a single mod ever betrayed the trust that I have placed on them and tried to fuck over this forum from the inside. If you know your flame forum history that is something to be proud of.

In particular I thank Obi for his steadfast, thankless devotion to providing what is suppose to be fun diversionary events in order to give our members something beyond the usual monotony to post about, despite getting so much unwarranted shit from the do nothing crowd and hecklers in the peanut gallery. Obi, we may not agree on much (or anything) politically but you will always have my sincere gratitude for your many years of doing your part to make this forum and this community more lively and entertaining. You are a flame community legend in my eyes.

I would also like to give a shoutout to all of those who cared enough to contribute financially over the years in order to help out with the expenses for keeping this place online. That always had the effect of making me feel like the forum was appreciated and worthwhile, at least by some.

I will take away with me many memories and friendships and lasting relationships which I will always treasure. It is because of TR and FC that I am fortunate to have someone like Dani a.k.a. VC, a.k.a. Popt in my corner as my bestie for more than a decade. I can write a book about her online exploits from years gone by, many of which are unknown to everyone except me. Let it be known that if anyone wants to know who I consider the best all-around flame/troll poster, my answer is Veronica Corningstone.

I remember like yesterday both of us brainstorming on IM circa Oct 11th 2008 to come up with a name for a new flame-debate forum which wouldn't be something trite and unoriginal like Flame (fill in the blank) or some derivation of Fight (fill in blank) until she mentioned something which triggered The Third Rail of Politics inside my head. I instantly knew we had a winner.

It's also because of TR that Irma a.k.a feral is intimately involved in my real life today, with an eye towards a future together so for that I am very gratified. TRF brought us together.

Our now 15 year fantasy football league, my friendships and sometimes sad convos with Vix, Cardy and Fate about serious happenings going on in their lives, the countless number of posts which have made me lmao or taught me things or touched me in other ways, none of that would have happened without TRF.

Why pull the plug now?

To be clear, 3.0 was going to be a real thing (ie, not a troll) up until a few days ago. It was my hope that adopting some changes such as post length limits, stamping out blatant trolling, racism, spam and a new focus on topics to flame others over rather than threads about other posters would make the forum more content diverse and readable.

However, being away for some time and coming back here can give you a new perspective. When I come back after several weeks and I am greeted by a basket full of the same witless, recycled smears that has been flung around at various forums for over 10 years, without a shred of humor or wit or entertainment or a new angle attached to it, it's like a bucket of cold water in the face. It's like time stands still and nothing changes. Nothing else is happening in the world to post about besides shit from 2007 sprinkled with some 'faggot' and 'penis' adjectives. That's not what I want to spend my money on to facilitate and support. I can think of many better things to blow money on.

Then I look at the roster of active posters and I ask myself, who am I kidding? I'm counting on a slew of dullards, dimwits and never-has-beens to suddenly change and become Summer of George or BaileyHankins with the encouragement of some new posting rules? It ain't going to happen. A forum where you can only post reaction gifs would be more attractive to me than sorting through these type of shitposts.

That's not to say that I view all posters here as dullards. To those regulars who don't take this seriously and are here for shits and giggles like Fred, Lems, Dion, looney and Torch and a few others including from time to time caskur, I have appreciated your contributions over the years. I have enjoyed caskur's food threads and videos and even her obstinate ways which have lead to some very funny reactions and replies over the years. Every good forum needs a foil or punching bag and caskur played the role better than anyone. It's too bad that she could dish out the smears but in the end she couldn't take them and left.

In addition to the lack of writing talent around to provide quality readable content that doesn't resemble a shoutbox convo by 6th graders, there are too many risks and expenses with running a well-planned forum of this type.

On the financial end, aside from the hosting costs there are expenses related to structuring ownership of the site into offshore shell corporations to insulate individuals from financial and legal exposure. On the legal side, there is considerable risk with copyright trolls and copyright claims. If you own a site and wish to avail yourself of the US statutory copyright safe harbor protections, you have to register an agent with the copyright office and that also can run into $100s each year. Otherwise the very act of allowing a posted image from Getty or other commercial photo company without approval or c&p'ing an article from another site can subject the owner(s) to a lawsuit and personal liability if the forum is not owned by a properly registered and maintained corporate entity with zero assets.

There are also potential pitfalls for both admins and posters in different jurisdictions with the rapidly emerging field of cyber-speech crimes and civil liability. Be very careful who you call a pedo or child pornographer on the internet without the protection of TOS like ours because they can make you have hell to pay.

Your Average Joe forum owner who has no idea about the minefield which they're aimlessly walking through or the counter-measures to protect themselves can just blow past this and ignore it but I am not your average Joe. I have a law degree (worst kept secret but I finally acknowledged it). Thus, I always went the extra mile to try and protect our members, whether from hostile doxxers intent on shutting our forum down in 2011 or from potential issues as a result of legal developments through the years. No need to thank me, I did it out of my principles.

That doesn't even get into the inordinate amount of 'free' time I devote to this diversion and the constant moping, bitching and whining about something being posted which sucks the last remnants of fun out of it.

We have successfully navigated a path through choppy waters for the past 10 years. To my knowledge no similar type of forum which preceded us has left on their own terms. From what I know, all previous forum owners have either failed to pay their bills or fucked things up beyond repair or disappeared from the net without a word or have died. I feel that by going out on my terms, a thank you post and explanation was in order rather than a sudden, permanent 404 Error page. Thus, this thread.

In short, the negatives of keeping this ship afloat far outweigh the positives. The time has come to cut my losses and shut this crap down. The forum will stay online at a minimum through the end of the month and possibly a few more days until the next cycle of hosting fees comes due in November. You have plenty of time to save or delete your PMs and get info to keep in touch with others if you desire and say your goodbyes.

Anticipated Questions

Will I consider allowing someone to take over TRF? No. Anyone interested in a forum to call people faggot in can start their own forum from scratch. It's not that hard. The difficult part is keeping it going and maintaining interest. Not very likely to draw much interest with the type of recycled content like is typically posted here and the lack of creativity coupled with the chorus of whiners who complain loudly and don't do much of anything to make things better but don't let that discourage you all. Nothing would validate my decision more than to stumble upon caskur, flea and Joo still posting threads in some yet created forum about feral being a child pornographer, in 2025.

Will the TRF ff league shut down as well? No. Not as long as posters like Toe and Torch continue to crack me up with their quips and Pickles continues to post his toons and hilariously hype up the 100s of paid subscribers to his hidden Twitch channel which no one can see. Sadly, that's the type of humor and good natured fun which is missing from here.

Some people like to be entertaining, funny and have fun while still trash talking to others while some others like to harass and smear without any shred of humor, wordplay or wit or constantly mope about things like rules or generally complain about everything as though people enjoy reading that. Which one are you?

Will I sell the domain name? Maybe. Make me an offer.

Is this the end of trf forever, a troll or is a change of heart possible? Six months or a year or 5 years from now if nostalgia gets the best of me, who knows. Not likely as I intend to retire the BRA1N screen name as well. It was a sn exclusively for trolling and flaming in a character which eventually morphed more and more into the real me so it has outlived its intended purpose anyways.

All things considered, it was a good run.

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NOÒOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOÒOOOOOOOOOOOO  :cry:
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Re: Happy 10th Anniversary TRF! All good things
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2018, 06:31:02 AM »

I appreciated the fun times I had here PWN3D!ing the fuck outta all Trump haters! My only "regerts" is that I wont be able to rub Saint Trumps victory in 2020 in everyones face like the obnoxious ass I am. But in all seriousness, thank you.

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Re: Happy 10th Anniversary TRF! All good things
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2018, 09:50:18 AM »

Ya, I'm bummed man. I had a lot of fun in two years time. This has been a needed diversion from the usual humdrum of normal weekly life. I'd start thanking people, but since my stomach already turned at the thought, I'm not gonna, save one: BraIn. Thanks for funding and staffing the platform. I appreciate it.

Everybody else I will find, eventually. I don't have to post on a board to get a message there. I still have unfinished business. Look for me at unexpected times.

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Re: Happy 10th Anniversary TRF! All good things
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2018, 10:34:12 AM »

Finally got tired of getting your ass kicked huh?
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Re: Happy 10th Anniversary TRF! All good things
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2018, 11:04:52 AM »

Ya, I'm bummed man. I had a lot of fun in two years time. This has been a needed diversion from the usual humdrum of normal weekly life. I'd start thanking people, but since my stomach already turned at the thought, I'm not gonna, save one: BraIn. Thanks for funding and staffing the platform. I appreciate it.

Everybody else I will find, eventually. I don't have to post on a board to get a message there. I still have unfinished business. Look for me at unexpected times.u

Thank me and pickles.....We bankrolled this place.  Bra1n has nearly went broke splurging on tranny orgies and Asiago bagels at The Brooklyn Water Bagel Co.   
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Re: Happy 10th Anniversary TRF! All good things
« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2018, 11:05:50 AM »

Finally got tired of getting your ass kicked huh?

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« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2018, 11:49:34 AM »

Thank me and pickles.....We bankrolled this place.  Bra1n has nearly went broke splurging on tranny orgies and Asiago bagels at The Brooklyn Water Bagel Co.

Lol. Thanking you goes without saying and if you an Pick bankrolled the place then it goes double for both.

TWAP, you too, and Vix. You both could have made life tough for me and didn't. Vix take care and TWAP, 
well, you're everywhere, so... anyway.. enuff of this mushy stuff.
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Re: Happy 10th Anniversary TRF! All good things
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2018, 12:22:28 PM »

Lol. Thanking you goes without saying and if you an Pick bankrolled the place then it goes double for both.

TWAP, you too, and Vix. You both could have made life tough for me and didn't. Vix take care and TWAP, 
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I'm not *everywhere*. Honest.
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« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2018, 02:35:19 PM »

I am so sad.  I have enjoyed TRF thoroughly.  I will never forget you!!!

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« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2018, 03:26:42 PM »

I appreciated the fun times I had here PWN3D!ing the fuck outta all Trump haters! My only "regerts" is that I wont be able to rub Saint Trumps victory in 2020 in everyones face like the obnoxious ass I am.

Heh.. don't tempt me. There's no telling what I might do in celebration after your evil saint is destroyed in 2020. At least i think we'll still be around through election day next month.  :lol:
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Re: Happy 10th Anniversary TRF! All good things
« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2018, 03:37:50 PM »

Heh.. don't tempt me. There's no telling what I might do in celebration after your evil saint is destroyed in 2020. At least i think we'll still be around through election day next month.  :lol:

 :grin: just remember, YUO can always say "Russia did it!"
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Re: Happy 10th Anniversary TRF! All good things
« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2018, 08:36:28 PM »

So, where are YUO terdz floating off to?
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