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Should street drugs be legalized?
« on: January 05, 2009, 07:15:55 PM »

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 I really think we should legalize street drugs. We can tax the shit out of them, it would virtually eliminate the street level crime associated with drug use (loitering? gimme a fucken break), it would at least make sure the drugs were safe, and part of the tax revenue could be used for treatment programs.


I think that is completely wrong. You only have to look at places like Amsterdam to see that places with liberal drug laws and the problems they have to see that this is not the answer.

i think Asian countries have it right. Look at Singapore, its the death penalty there and they have next to no issues with drugs. Its all the liberal pussy footing around and trying to "cure" these addicts that is the problem and why it doesnt go away. Get tough on them.

If I had it my way, they would get 2 years for the first offense and death for the second. No debate, no they had a bad childhood, no excuses. Just a 25c solution.

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Re: Should street drugs be legalized?
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2009, 08:13:52 PM »

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/12/01/2433794.htm?section=justin

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drug-related crime and deaths have dropped since pilot schemes were introduced a decade ago.


as far as asians go... ever heard of opium?

regardless of anything else i may post, where do you draw the line between "good" drugs and "bad" drugs? by the letter of the law? should someone who smokes a joint be subjected to the same treatment as someone who is found pecking the carpet for stray rocks? ever heard the phrase "let the punishment fit the crime"? what youre suggesting is about as extreme as cutting off someones hand for stealing a snickers bar. how very old testament of you.
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Re: Should street drugs be legalized?
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2009, 09:07:17 PM »

Opium is not an issue in Singapore. They do have some problems with Indian migrants and drugs, but on the whole they have very few compared to other countries.

As for "let the punishment fit the crime", if its an illegal drug them its illegal. If society thinks that weed is ok then it should be legalized if not then it carries the same penalty at other drugs.

I am against these programs that suck millions of dollars that look after junkies. There are more deserving people out there that could do with the money. Spend it on battered women refuges or people affected by major storms etc. Fuck the junkies, shoot the bastards and safe the wasted tax payer dollars.
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Re: Should street drugs be legalized?
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2009, 10:27:31 PM »

I don't think all junkies should be shot or taken off the face of the earth- too many people have been on one drug or another at some point in their lives now for that to be ok I think.

I think they should legalize some drugs like maybe marijuana - but if they do, not only tax it have laws so you know its safe. I know I've gotten some crazy laced shit back in the day and don't want my kids getting some shit they shouldn't have mixed in there. No reason not to and tax the hell out of it just like cigarettes and booze. No, I don't think they should legalize Shrooms, X, Meth, LSD, Coke, Opiates, Glass, Heroin, any of that.

I remember in Belgium, they had signs up that say "No hard drugs" I agree with that!
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Re: Should street drugs be legalized?
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2009, 11:36:52 PM »

If it guaranteed Contesticles would OD then I'm all for it.
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Re: Should street drugs be legalized?
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2009, 03:49:32 AM »

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Re: Should street drugs be legalized?
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2009, 07:47:18 AM »

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Re: Should street drugs be legalized?
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2009, 10:19:21 AM »

Why is it that when I started a similar thread about a month ago you had nothing to say on the subject?

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Re: Should street drugs be legalized?
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2009, 01:05:50 PM »

Why is it that when I started a similar thread about a month ago you had nothing to say on the subject?

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Probably because I didnt read it. Now how can starting this thread about drug use be a troll?

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Re: Should street drugs be legalized?
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2009, 01:49:07 PM »

Opium is not an issue in Singapore. They do have some problems with Indian migrants and drugs, but on the whole they have very few compared to other countries.


oh ya, lets be like singapore where prostitution is legal but oral sex isnt, where caning is the norm for corporal punishment and where hanging is the method of execution. i find it odd yet somehow appropriate that you believe smoking a joint should be punishable by hanging. did you know there were 378 hangings in singapore between '91 and 2001 and that 185 were for drug related crimes? in 94 alone there were 54 people executed for drug related crimes many of which were regarding marijuana of all fucking things. thats simply fucking retarded.

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As for "let the punishment fit the crime", if its an illegal drug them its illegal. If society thinks that weed is ok then it should be legalized if not then it carries the same penalty at other drugs.


and why exactly is that? what youre saying is that breaking any law should be punishable by death. seems pretty fucking tyrannical to me.

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I am against these programs that suck millions of dollars that look after junkies.


junkies? rofl. did you just call weed smokers junkies? and what about the BILLIONS spent on housing people who have been convicted of possessing marijuana and other drugs? do you propose we just break out the rope and start slaughtering the estimated 75,000(in the US) people in the following article? seriously? and thats not even considering the people who are in for worse drugs, should we just throw em in a room and gas em like the jews? would that make you happy?

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/524483_12

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Based on the available data for prison, jail, and probation, we estimate that over 68,000 people are under correctional supervision for a marijuana offense. While there are no data regarding the proportion of persons on parole for a marijuana offense, it is likely that this group would raise the total number of persons under supervision to more than 75,000. In addition, there are an unknown number of persons in prison due to a probation or parole violation for a non-marijuana offense who have had their supervision revoked after testing positive for marijuana.


 
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There are more deserving people out there that could do with the money. Spend it on battered women refuges or people affected by major storms etc. Fuck the junkies, shoot the bastards and safe the wasted tax payer dollars.


you DO of course realize that the VAST majority of people using marijuana ARE taxpayers right? i would also be willing to bet that a pretty good chunk of "battered women" and people effected by storms are also smokers. what about them? kill them too? fuck it lets just have the cops carry around M60's and grenade launchers and let em take care of it right then and there. who needs judges and lawyers? can you imagine how much money we would save if we just killed all suspected criminals on sight? 
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Re: Should street drugs be legalized?
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2009, 02:17:36 PM »

Probably because I didnt read it. Now how can starting this thread about drug use be a troll?

Fuck you people are paranoid

So posting a topic related to one posters PI is a coincidense? What about the second time?

Yea I know its a valid topic its also wlking the line, whats next? If Bra1n posts about his hemaroids are you going to start a thread about the dangers of hemaroid cream?

A newbie may get the benefit of the doubt but a known underhand troll like you?

You must think we are dumber than you are. :hammer:
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Re: Should street drugs be legalized?
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2009, 02:55:38 PM »

So posting a topic related to one posters PI is a coincidense? What about the second time?

Yea I know its a valid topic its also wlking the line, whats next? If Bra1n posts about his hemaroids are you going to start a thread about the dangers of hemaroid cream?

A newbie may get the benefit of the doubt but a known underhand troll like you?

You must think we are dumber than you are. :hammer:

Ok, you are saying Pers is a drug addict? I didnt know that. I read the comment she made and its the one in my first post. I took her comment and thought it would make a great topic.

If this thread is the same as she claims to have made a few weeks back then the Mods can merge them.

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Re: Should street drugs be legalized?
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2009, 03:09:45 PM »

oh ya, lets be like singapore where prostitution is legal but oral sex isnt, where caning is the norm for corporal punishment and where hanging is the method of execution. i find it odd yet somehow appropriate that you believe smoking a joint should be punishable by hanging. did you know there were 378 hangings in singapore between '91 and 2001 and that 185 were for drug related crimes? in 94 alone there were 54 people executed for drug related crimes many of which were regarding marijuana of all fucking things. thats simply fucking retarded.

and why exactly is that? what youre saying is that breaking any law should be punishable by death. seems pretty fucking tyrannical to me.

junkies? rofl. did you just call weed smokers junkies? and what about the BILLIONS spent on housing people who have been convicted of possessing marijuana and other drugs? do you propose we just break out the rope and start slaughtering the estimated 75,000(in the US) people in the following article? seriously? and thats not even considering the people who are in for worse drugs, should we just throw em in a room and gas em like the jews? would that make you happy?

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/524483_12

 
you DO of course realize that the VAST majority of people using marijuana ARE taxpayers right? i would also be willing to bet that a pretty good chunk of "battered women" and people effected by storms are also smokers. what about them? kill them too? fuck it lets just have the cops carry around M60's and grenade launchers and let em take care of it right then and there. who needs judges and lawyers? can you imagine how much money we would save if we just killed all suspected criminals on sight?


What I am saying is,

If we consider weed to be acceptable then we should legalize it. Personally I don't think it is an acceptable drug, perhaps if Dani can put our differences aside she would be able to give input into the mental health issues that have been linked to marijuana.

Now if there was the death penalty for weed there would never be so many thousands of people arrested for it. The fact the laws are so light is the reason why so many ignore them and use it.

But lets not get caught up on weed, lets look at the crack, heroin, ice etc. The drugs that destroy lives. The only way you will come close to wiping that out is to have what you may consider a tyrannical approach to them IMO
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Re: Should street drugs be legalized?
« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2009, 06:51:02 PM »

You only have to look at places like Amsterdam to see that places with liberal drug laws and the problems they have to see that this is not the answer.

That must be a different Amsterdam than the one that I'm going to for the 8th time this year.  You'd be hard pressed to find a more mellow, laid back and beautiful city  :nails:
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Re: Should street drugs be legalized?
« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2009, 07:20:57 PM »

Ok, you are saying Pers is a drug addict? I didnt know that. I read the comment she made and its the one in my first post. I took her comment and thought it would make a great topic.

If this thread is the same as she claims to have made a few weeks back then the Mods can merge them.

I'm not trolling anyone but I love that I have fucked with your heads so much that you think I am with every post  :rotf:

I didn't mention anyone you fucking spaz, you fuck with no ones heads you unfunny clown. :slap:
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Re: Should street drugs be legalized?
« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2009, 05:50:43 AM »

RECOVERING drug addict. My point was just that not only did I start a thread, this topic has been brought up by me and at least one other person in at least three other threads. But because you're so seemingly busy looking for apparent openings to fire off a shot, you haven't seen those other opportunities to engage, or else you simply didn't give a fuck.

But whatever.

Marijuana is not the same as, say, meth or heroin or crack. And I am by no means saying that any mind-altering substance is entirely harmless; any time a person introduces a foreign substance into their body it carries a risk. But the same could be said for anti-depressants or anti-psychotics. And to suggest that killing users is some kind of solution to the "drug problem" is sheer idiocy.  It's been established that alcoholism and addiction are diseases, TREATABLE diseases, recognized by the AMA. Would you suggest executing a diabetic who didn't take their insulin, went into shock and caused a fatal car crash? If you would, then I see no point in debating with you.

The problem lies with the criminal element involved in the drug trade. Legalize or decriminalize and you virtually eliminate that element. Take the money made from taxing the substances, as well as the money being spent on jail cells for street-level users, and spend it on treatment programs and education for young people. Clearly, what we're doing now is not working. Heroin use is at its highest since the 70's, with suburban white bread kids sticking needles in their arms for entertainment. SOMETHING needs be done, but I really don't think execution is the answer. And I don't think you believe that either.
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Re: Should street drugs be legalized?
« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2009, 01:02:10 PM »

I didn't mention anyone you fucking spaz, you fuck with no ones heads you unfunny clown. :slap:

ahahaha!!! he'll never get it, is easily tripped up, has a minimal recall, doesnt fact check, and has always owned himself.

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it's quite a funny cycle. he's made to look like a fool, dwells on it for some time, then in a weak attempt at retaliation, starts a thread he thinks will gather the negative attention he craves so much. if only he put that sort of effort into starting legit threads, he wouldnt be so transparent and his simplemindedness wouldnt be so blatant.

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Re: Should street drugs be legalized?
« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2009, 01:20:34 PM »

ahahaha!!! he'll never get it, is easily tripped up, has a minimal recall, doesnt fact check, and has always owned himself.

i think what he really loves, is sitting there trying to figure out how to make himself come off innocuously after he pores through all the posts of the people who have belittled him in the past, because he doesnt have much else to do with himself. obviously it takes him days and days because he isnt very bright. another bottom dwelling loser attempted the same angle weeks ago on another board and he was compelled to follow suit like the dimwitted gimp he has proved himself to be in the dumpster. how pathetic.

it's quite a funny cycle. he's made to look like a fool, dwells on it for some time, then in a weak attempt at retaliation, starts a thread he thinks will gather the negative attention he craves so much. if only he put that sort of effort into starting legit threads, he wouldnt be so transparent and his simplemindedness wouldnt be so blatant.

nice sig ya clown!  :vc:

So straight out flaming is allowed now?

Good

You are nothing more than a PI spreading slut. You spread Oranje's PI to everyone you could. I trolled you with bullshit PI and waited for you to pass it on and you did. Then mocked you for it. You cant take getting flamed, never have been able to. You are a weak little cunt that is a joke as a Mod on a debate board.

I laughed my ass off when you had your little temper tantrum before Christmas and left this place. You then posted a load of bollocks about how you were so busy you didnt have time for this, yet here you are now after getting over you meltdown.

Now you continue trying to flame me, why? Because you are smarting from me making a joke of you

HAW HAW
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Re: Should street drugs be legalized?
« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2009, 01:54:38 PM »

nice sig ya clown!  :vc:

better than yours..... :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
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Re: Should street drugs be legalized?
« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2009, 02:18:59 PM »

lmao, nice meltdown loser. it was obvious from the start this was what you were itching about and it's weak. just as weak as your mentality and your idiotic facade of being an "evil bastard". youre a stupid bastard and there is no way for you to hide that. everyone but you sees it.  :rotf:

now listen you hypocritical self stymied fuckstain, contrary to your misguided beliefs and your thin and cluelessly unsubstantiated rebuttals about me spreading "pi", which is your only basis for "flaming" me; there is a plethora of people out there and right here on this very board who have shared PLENTY of their identifying information with me and not a drop of it ever made it to the boards, nor will it ever. you want respect, you give it. its a simple concept that has clearly gone over your head.

youre still smarting over a supposedly fake fucking picture being shared, yet any truly relevant information you ever shared with me (if indeed any of it were true, not that i even recall what name you gave me or give a rats dirty ass about where you work or what you do with your family) when we spoke hasnt left my keyboard or passed my lips you mongoloid. think about it you fucking asshat. btw, i knew the interior boat picture was faked. you cant chop for shit ya idiot.

where does that leave you? that leaves you, the cock monger who has another persons business information, which you are accusing me of passing out, actively linked in your sig on another board and you begged me for the picture of another poster to the point where i saw how truly pathetic you were and chose to severe our friendship and turn around and pass him the picture you gave me as a bonus; and here you are, limp wristedly pointing fingers at me, on a board that doesnt even cater to such childishness because you wouldnt be able to get my attention otherwise dumbass.

go back to flametown and get over it already you scatterbrained moron. move on. nobody here finds you witty or amusing and you have nothing of worth to contribute here that anyone is even remotely interested in reading. flaming of this caliber is mundane and passe and youre just a bitter bitch who doesnt get it, nor will you ever.
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